RUST RUST RUST!

[Ross365]

All of this ^^^^ Anything else, just wasting your time.

Though id agree that looks rough. Prob cheaper to get a new chassis unless you work for £5 an hour.

This is OTT. It's hard to look at a picture and get a good idea of how bad things really are. Damn, even when you look directly at the real thing, it's not until you start you find that it's worse, or sometimes better than thought.

And just like hammers and screwdrivers, needle scalers are NOT a one size fit's all tool. I have a Chicago Pneumatic CP7II5 which I suspect is not so powerful as the ones mentioned, but can still do damage to rusted (sheet) body work, which an angle grinder does not..

That said, you do have to put a £/hour against your time and see what a new one costs. There's a rear subframe on a Toyota car that I know of and the way it most often fails is practically impossible to repair, and certainly costs more in labour than a new one.

 

[julianf]

I'm sure that it was only last week that someone on the landrover thread said that they had had their Toyota for 20 years and even the windscreen fluid hadn't needed topping up.

Its sad that the OP has not had the same experience.

 

[willie.macleod]

I'm sure that it was only last week that someone on the landrover thread said that they had had their Toyota for 20 years and even the windscreen fluid hadn't needed topping up.

The last Toyota I took to a main dealer for its service twenty years ago (not mine) I made sure the washer fluid was fully topped up..... they still itemised and charged for a full refill. I must have paid for their top up?!

Back to the topic in hand, agree with the others on the needle scaler. It's pretty much the quickest way to work out if you are dealing with something that can be saved or if its just a pile of iron oxide loosely connected. Things like wire bushes or sanding disk no good if you are dealing with delaminated metal. Need to get some rust convertor onto scaled metal quickly though to help stem the tide of rust once you knock the delaminated bits off.

 

[fizzy]

And there was me thinking only Land Rovers rusted

 

[Ross365]

I don't think the rust on that Hilux is typical of what you might expect to see on an average Toyota car. I wonder what it has been used for?

 

[fractured]

I find that with wire brushes in angle grinders you have to be aware that after the loose rust is removed you just end up polishing the more solid rust.

This can look like you have got the rust off but in actual fact you have just polished it or made it shiny. If you put a converter on top of this you are just hiding your problem and it just gets worse.

Once you have used thewire brush use a flap disc or grinding disc. You can then see if you get sparks or more brown dust coming off.

I don't have a needle gun but would use it if I had one. There is point ignoring rust as you need to know what you are dealing with.

Unfortunately there is no quick way around a chassis, or if you find one please let us know.

For any take off bits try electrolysis. That makes rust removal so much easier, but you have to get it in a tank.

Good luck with it and don't forget your PPE. Eyes, ears, mask and gloves.

 

[lotus_esprit_s1]

I don't think the rust on that Hilux is typical of what you might expect to see on an average Toyota car. I wonder what it has been used for?

I live in a very corrosive atmosphere by the sea, I see a lot of Toyotas like that, however the L200 seems to be worse. The photos below show a ten year old L200 - usually this rust would be blamed on launching boats however I know the history of this one and it has never had a tow hitch fitted (The arrow was to show the owner why I was telling him he needed all new brake lines!). The second photo is after an hour with the needle gun. It needed eight patches and a new fuel tank bracket made up.

 

[Bornfree]

I live in a very corrosive atmosphere by the sea, I see a lot of Toyotas like that, however the L200 seems to be worse. The photos below show a ten year old L200 - usually this rust would be blamed on launching boats however I know the history of this one and it has never had a tow hitch fitted (The arrow was to show the owner why I was telling him he needed all new brake lines!). The second photo is after an hour with the needle gun. It needed eight patches and a new fuel tank bracket made up.

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that looks like a one way visit to the scrap yard is required.

 

[Dcal]

Hammer to confirm if it's worth saving.
Needle gun to remove the worst of the rust.
Bristle blaster to prep the surface
Or
Go straight to blasting and see what's left.

"If" it's worth saving, don't forget the paint system you use will make a huge difference to how long it will last.
I'd recommend Jotamastic 90A.
Apply two coats, with at least one coat applied with a brush to make sure you get into all the corners and edges then a top coat of your choice, followed by a good wax treatment to the inside of all cavitys. Something like ACF50, which is a well recommend one on here.

 

[octo0072000]

we call them growlers big needle guns that is!

Growlers is Yorkshire slang for pork pies
also stand pies for the large ones

 

[finyuk2005]

Growlers is Yorkshire slang for pork pies
also stand pies for the large ones

a growler to me is something completely different a bit rude!

 

[armalites]

I'm sure that it was only last week that someone on the landrover thread said that they had had their Toyota for 20 years and even the windscreen fluid hadn't needed topping up.

I'm pretty sure that is response of the week

 

[Cobbler]

a growler to me is something completely different a bit rude!

A growler here is a container to put beer in to take away, I’ve got a stainless steel one, holds 2 litres.

 

[AKN]

What I know as a “growler”

 

[Dcal]

What I know as a “growler”

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What is that?

 

[pint]

sometimes those things are not actually as bad as they first look , they seem to get a coat of surface rust , and then it stops ,,, mind you all the bolt heads rust off .

then again some days they actually are that bad ,,, id be tempted to take it to a blasters ,,, after giving it a tap to see if its actually worth taking to get blasted.

yep got a mk6 to do. been all over it with a hammer and it's solid just has a horrible looking flakey layer of rust.

suppose toyota need it to die of something cos it's required zero work so far

 

[Richiew]

Not many Bo Selecta! fans on here then?

 

[armalites]

Not many Bo Selecta! fans on here then?

No, there was a thread about a bench grinder a long time ago with a brand name Selecta and I said it was "Proper Bo" , I thought it was funny

It's a shame but I suspect those caricature will be gone forever soon. A work colleague showed me scene from the League of Gentleman the other day, they just wouldn't allow it these days.

 

[finyuk2005]

most comedy is so tame nowadays,
even the like of Little Britain didnt manage to make a comeback without loosing over have the skits...they never bothered in the end,

cant see anything close to bo selecta being on the tv ever again!!

 

[Chrislaw]

Thanks everyone for the replies so far. Thanks for all the suggestions. Getting another fairly used Chassis was the first option but failed when we could not find any. Please would anyone know where we can source for one? Any idea to how much new ones are going for and where to located them?