sako243
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Not this time. Local chap, actually the guy who installed my workshop door.
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I can’t even remember where I found that picture, so I can’t help- sorry. Be an interesting build though. I’ve been looking for a Jimny but can’t find one I like. Secretly I want a Kap Landmaster
never mind i think i have the drive train sorted in my head, jimnys have been hard to find due to covid tax this last year but prices are coming back down to a sensible level again now, although im planning on using a jimny and a half chassis as i prefer coil springs to leaf i still think im going to use an sj body as l like the boxy look compared to the cartoon character look of a jimny, anyway i will start a build thread when the chassis are back from the shot blasters next week, it should look something like this
i did originally think i was going that way but i have folk cleverer than me telling me that is not very strong as the first crown wheel is subject to the torque from both axles and it will go snap crackle and pop in short order , but i have a cunning plan................The easiest( not the best) way to couple a third axle is to get a second diff carrier with just the pinion and mount in on the back of axle two to run off the back of the crownwheel of the diff in front, if that makes sense.
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sako243
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It has been a while since I've had any opportunity to work on this. It's been moved about back and forth into the workshop as various things get in the way.
Finally I've got a semi usable workshop so I can just go down there for 10 minutes and actually achieve something. So after much contemplation a location for the alternator (which also has an oil feed and vacuum pump) and the power steering pump was decided (a while ago).
I'd previously mocked up the alternator mount and tweaked that about a while back. This afternoon I've mocked up the power steering mount (bottom right). Both the alternator and power steering pump have tensioners built in as part of it so the alternator will be crank, fan pulley and alternator. The power steering will be direct off the crank.
Now they're tacked into place I can measure up for some belts and pop down at the next opportunity to the local tractor factors to get some. Once I'm happy with those I'll fully weld and tidy up things.
Finally I've got a semi usable workshop so I can just go down there for 10 minutes and actually achieve something. So after much contemplation a location for the alternator (which also has an oil feed and vacuum pump) and the power steering pump was decided (a while ago).
I'd previously mocked up the alternator mount and tweaked that about a while back. This afternoon I've mocked up the power steering mount (bottom right). Both the alternator and power steering pump have tensioners built in as part of it so the alternator will be crank, fan pulley and alternator. The power steering will be direct off the crank.
Now they're tacked into place I can measure up for some belts and pop down at the next opportunity to the local tractor factors to get some. Once I'm happy with those I'll fully weld and tidy up things.
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Thought I'd tack this on to the thread, this passed me leaving the stables this morning.
Checked DVLA and it's registered as 2 axle rigid body??
Checked DVLA and it's registered as 2 axle rigid body??
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It's not flagging it, there seems to be a few 3 axle Landies registered as 2 axle for some reason, it seems DVLA can't get their head round a Landy having more than 2 axles
Here's another example...
Registered as 2 axle again and this was built/converted by Boughton
I am sure it is more down to the DVLA just not understanding anything out of the ordinary. Chap kept trying to register a Rover SD1 with a 27L Rolls Royce meteor engine - they kept changing it to 2.7LIt's not flagging it, there seems to be a few 3 axle Landies registered as 2 axle for some reason, it seems DVLA can't get their head round a Landy having more than 2 axles
Here's another example...
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Registered as 2 axle again and this was built/converted by Boughton
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I helped a mate purchase an ex MOD Series III - It was supposed to have an age related plate.1979 - they gave it a 1994 plate which is when it was demobbed.
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I am sure it is more down to the DVLA just not understanding anything out of the ordinary. Chap kept trying to register a Rover SD1 with a 27L Rolls Royce meteor engine - they kept changing it to 2.7L
I helped a mate purchase an ex MOD Series III - It was supposed to have an age related plate.1979 - they gave it a 1994 plate which is when it was demobbed.
This is where it's worth being a member of a specialist club/society such as the Military vehicle trust who can help with registering correctly.
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More to do with them being a conversion after they have been registered. To try and add an axel after registration would probably be met with a re registering bun fight, revenue weights and driver eligibility would also come into question.It's not flagging it, there seems to be a few 3 axle Landies registered as 2 axle for some reason, it seems DVLA can't get their head round a Landy having more than 2 axles
Here's another example...
Registered as 2 axle again and this was built/converted by Boughton
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I am sure it is more down to the DVLA just not understanding anything out of the ordinary. Chap kept trying to register a Rover SD1 with a 27L Rolls Royce meteor engine - they kept changing it to 2.7L
I helped a mate purchase an ex MOD Series III - It was supposed to have an age related plate.1979 - they gave it a 1994 plate which is when it was demobbed.
This was common on Armstrong mt500's just need a proof of age to get the correct reg
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By the rules though, these conversions are illegal to use on the road as they are not correctly registered. They should have had an IVA/SVA and be re registered on a Q plate.
Although no doubt you can get insurance for them on a modified policy. Got to wonder what would happen if something serious happened, like taking out some Nuns and disabled children at a bus stop ?
Although no doubt you can get insurance for them on a modified policy. Got to wonder what would happen if something serious happened, like taking out some Nuns and disabled children at a bus stop ?
These days you would get a jail term no matter what the reason. No such thing as an accident any more
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Yes, and don't we know it !These days you would get a jail term no matter what the reason. No such thing as an accident any more
I guess all accidents were/are preventable. With the benefit of hindsight
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To require an SVA or what ever its called now, is down to a points scoring system, and consideration if it is a major structural modification.
So from memory you need 8 points to avoid sva.
Original chassis frame 5 points
Original engine 1 point
Original gear box 1 point
Original steering 1 point.
Welding brackets to a chassis isnt a major mod, neither is in the case of a landy replacing cross members etc.
So I can see the confusion for a minimum wage minion at the DVLA who thinks cars only have 4 wheels.
Fire service vehicles are exempt from IVA - but should still show the right axle configuration.
Otherwise, adding an axle would be, in their words a "radical alteration" and would need one.
If it's already registered, and has once been correctly listed as three axle, then good luck getting them to listen - I have a legal document from the state of Texas indicating year of original registration . . and DVAL refuse to acknowledge their mistake and have kindly made my car appear a year older than it is.
Second time they've done it to me - my first Lancia integrale gained an "F" plate despite the Italian documents clearing showing the right dates - confused the serious enthusiasts, as that was a year before the 16v appeared . . .
Otherwise, adding an axle would be, in their words a "radical alteration" and would need one.
If it's already registered, and has once been correctly listed as three axle, then good luck getting them to listen - I have a legal document from the state of Texas indicating year of original registration . . and DVAL refuse to acknowledge their mistake and have kindly made my car appear a year older than it is.
Second time they've done it to me - my first Lancia integrale gained an "F" plate despite the Italian documents clearing showing the right dates - confused the serious enthusiasts, as that was a year before the 16v appeared . . .
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Looking at the existing IVA rules, there's at least one class of assessment which would allow it to retain it's original registration plate, if it was done by a company, it's less clear if a DIY modification job would be Q-plated under the rules.
Presumably the DVLA would decide that based on the scoring system.
Interestingly that scoring system theoretically means I could convert my Stage 1 into a copy of the Sandringham and keep the age related plate at historic status, as it would only involve modifications which were available contemporary to the year of manufacture... I imagine it would be bloody painful to do the paperwork however.
