Sherman Tig (Jasic in disguise?)

[Robert1998]

Hi everyone.

Long time out the forum. One question, following your advice, I have bought a wp 17 torch and I need to know the type of the thread of the gas conection of the torch in the tig206p.



I think it is imperial. I have measured and its diameter is 9,78 mm (maybe 3/8?) and with the thread meter it seems to be 25G withworth, but it´s my first time with imperial system.

Thank you

Best regards

 

[Misterg]

M10 x 1.0

 

[Robert1998]

M10 x 1.0

THANK YOU!!

I´m learning and I thought M10 has to be 1,50.

In spain we said you will not go to bed without knowing one more thing.

 

[Misterg]

I thought M10 has to be 1,50.

That's M10 coarse (the most common pitch for fasteners) - I believe one can also get 1.25, 1.0 & 0.75 pitches in M10...

...but the gas connector is M10 x 1.0

 

[Robert1998]

Ok ok thank you.

 

[Ruffian]

Ok so 18months down the line I've now got a small fault with my machine, nothing drastic but thinking I have a gas leak internal of the machine as when the fan on demand kicks in, I dont get any gas coverage.

Ruled the torch and connections out straight away as unplugged from Sherman straight into jasic and carried on as normal.

Will have to pull the machine apart and have a look at the gas pipe to solenoid etc,

 

[Hood]

Ok so 18months down the line I've now got a small fault with my machine, nothing drastic but thinking I have a gas leak internal of the machine as when the fan on demand kicks in, I dont get any gas coverage.

Ruled the torch and connections out straight away as unplugged from Sherman straight into jasic and carried on as normal.

Will have to pull the machine apart and have a look at the gas pipe to solenoid etc,

If I recall they are pushfits internally so quite likely just one had not been properly inserted when built and it has worked its was out.

 

[Ruffian]

If I recall they are pushfits internally so quite likely just one had not been properly inserted when built and it has worked its was out.

Yep agreed but it means now i can actually get my finger out and convert the front of the machine to the rectus 21 fitting also rather than having my adapter on it.

That way all the machines are running the same gas fittings for ease of swapping torches.

 

[Hood]

Yep agreed but it means now i can actually get my finger out and convert the front of the machine to the rectus 21 fitting also rather than having my adapter on it.

That way all the machines are running the same gas fittings for ease of swapping torches.

Aye, did that not long after I got it.

 

[Ruffian]

Aye, did that not long after I got it.

I know, I have the union sat in my tool box since
Just been using an adapter as didnt want to undo it all again.

 

[Kram]

If its only when the fan kicks in, Id think its electrical and somehow the solenoid is not getting power, else wouldnt it have a slow leak/bad gas all the time?

 

[Ruffian]

If its only when the fan kicks in, Id think its electrical and somehow the solenoid is not getting power, else wouldnt it have a slow leak/bad gas all the time?

Dependant on if push or pull fan, but without opening it up wont know,
But I always shut the gas off anyways so wouldnt know and probably over compensate as use flow meter on torch end.

 

[Ruffian]

Well good news and bad news.

Good news the welder is fine with the bigger original wp26 torch,
Same as the jasic,

But with my 17 torch I have issues with gas coverage, so swapped the torch and still got issues so think I must have melted the pipe somewhere in the sheath.

So got a new union and torch, and just need to order a new power pipe.

 

[big bbq]

Aye, did that not long after I got it.

What fitting did you use specifically if you don't mind me asking?

Looking to use a CK9 torch and this seems the most sensible way to do it.

 

[Hood]

I think it was this one.

Pardon our interruption...

 

[AndersK]

So got a new union and torch, and just need to order a new power pipe.

The most common place for gas failure on a gas cooled torch is the head. There's a small hose that melts of you overheat the hose. I have killed plenty heads but never a gas cooled power cable. Heads are consumables and easy to replace. If youre in doubt you could plug one end of the hose and pressurise it under water.

 

[big bbq]

Thanks Hood, will it be the 4mm or 6mm ID hose inside the machine?

 

[Hood]

Thanks Hood, will it be the 4mm or 6mm ID hose inside the machine?

I am almost certain is is the 6/4 you need, 6mm OD hose with 4mm ID.

 

[Hood]

Thanks Hood, will it be the 4mm or 6mm ID hose inside the machine?

Just looked back and it is, see here.

Sherman Tig (Jasic in disguise?)

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[Ruffian]

The most common place for gas failure on a gas cooled torch is the head. There's a small hose that melts of you overheat the hose. I have killed plenty heads but never a gas cooled power cable. Heads are consumables and easy to replace. If youre in doubt you could plug one end of the hose and pressurise it under water.

Yep but I changed the torch on the lead and still had the same issue. So only common link was the dinse fitting and or lead.
So thought sod it and ordered a ck superflex lead now anyways as good excuse.