Sherman Tig (Jasic in disguise?)

[Ruffian]

Times have changed mate as 2 years ago a lot of people only dreamed about getting an ac dc tig welder but now even when i can offer a slight few at this kind of money they then want it for 550

Agreed,

8 years ago acdc tigs were like £1500
4 years ago £1000.
Now they are available for uk machines for less than that and
Some imported machines even cheaper.

Pay your moneys take your chances I guess.
I'm thinking do I sell my second welder and replace it with a water cooler though now,

 

[Ruffian]

Lol stop it... i have a water cooled package going also

You damn temptress!!
Let me know your absolute bestest best bestester price then bud.
Can message me if you dont want to step on peoples toes.

 

[Hood]

Let me get my big calculator out

You selling that £50 Tetrix yet?

 

[Hood]

Want me to let you know when I'm done with the others as thought you was joking when you keep saying 50 quid. 4k saving for the chappie on that one as also as came with a cooler too

I was just joking, well unless you could drop to £50

 

[Altintas]

Elkraft 100 % Jasic


http://elkraft.de/tig_ac_dc_200_puls_schweissinverter.html

http://elkraft.de/tig_mma_inverter.html

 

[Ruffian]

Elkraft 100 % Jasic


http://elkraft.de/tig_ac_dc_200_puls_schweissinverter.html

http://elkraft.de/tig_mma_inverter.html

Good spot, but unless the price is seriously cheap like the Sherman's were. (Sub £500 possibly closer to 400) then is it worth taking the risk on a machine that has been imported and possible limited if any warranty.

Now the prices are creeping up I would be looking more towards trying to get a deal on a parweld or similar uk supported machine.

 

[Hood]

Elkraft 100 % Jasic


http://elkraft.de/tig_ac_dc_200_puls_schweissinverter.html

http://elkraft.de/tig_mma_inverter.html

Not the Jasic Mini though unless I am missing it.

 

[Ruffian]

But as I had the sherman there,
And got frustrated with the adapters and not wanting to cut the original power lead it got pulled apart, only cable I had was a bit of swa, so now it has a new pretty power lead into 13amp plug right to the power switch. Some people may think this may well be silly but I like the fact it can be returned back to factory . . . . . . .



Then found some really old cream vinyl and thought sod it. The vinyl was horrible about 8years old and trying to chase a loose cover around the garage was a pain. But it'll do for what's needed.

 

[Ruffian]

See i said r
wrap it

Yea I remember why I dont wrap.
I was like a dog with wrapping paper at Christmas, was everywhere besides where I want it to be

 

[Altintas]

aluminum first test

 

[90anlu92]

Hi everyone, my name's Anton and I'm new to the forums! I've just gone and ordered myself a Sherman 210P AC/DC Tig welder:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SHERMAN-...-210-AC-DC-PULSE-MMA-controlling/224062059765

Does anyone have any experience with this particular model? I guess this one is not a case of "Jasic in disguise" as it looks completely different, but then again who knows what's hiding inside... If it's made by the same factory, perhaps it shares internal components?

Anyway, the welder I picked came highly recommended by the guys over atv Raptors garage who have been using theirs for just over a year and it seems to be working quite nicely for them, so I'm hoping it'll do just fine for me as well:

What steered me towards this particular welder is the 60% duty cycle rather than 40% on the 206, I'm hoping this means the machine will be a bit more heavy duty so to speak... But I guess time will tell lol.

I ordered mine from the Shermanprofii Ebay store and I paid £450 including foot pedal and gas regulator, plus £20 shipping. That's as cheap as I could find it anywhere, a lot of other seller had it listed for £550+ so I'm hoping I got a bargain.

I'll be sure to return with a review once it arrives, I'm thinking it might be of interest to know a bit more about sherman as a brand and find out what the rest of their models are like since you guys have already established that the 206 is a Jasic clone and thus simply awesome for the price. I'm hoping my machine will perform well too, if not then at least I can serve as a warning example to those who are considering getting anything other than the 206 lol.

Cheers!

 

[90anlu92]

Yeah but I think the 206 p clone is old news now as yes when I stripped the one down back in March but had a manufacture date around Dec this was the same. My new jasic one is not the same so perhaps just using parts up maybe but who knows

That could very well be the case. I can see how Jasic was planning on bringing new models out, they slap together a few simpler clones using their stock of components, rebrands them and sells them cheap as "fake Jasics". That would make them similar or even identical to last years model, but ofc the new Jasics would be something else entirely.

Got a link?

In case anyone else goes off to hunt...
I have tried 2 polish sites that contact you separately once you click 'buy it now'. This is before you are asked for payment details. Both were out of stock after I had ordered.
Another site is an aggregation site where multiple different vendors advertise - I suspect there is a delay between that site getting updated with stock levels.
The is a DC Only Sherman 206P which does seem to be readily available. The excitement is about the AC/DC 206P version


I'm very tempted by the 210P as it isn't far off the cheapest AC tig you can get, and looks much better than anything cheaper. It would be great to hear confirmation that it 'works'. I mainly 'need' a tig because of this forum so the cheapest that will survive a few hours of welding and isn't so bad that it puts me off TIG is probably best choice.

The one I've just ordered is called 210p, is that the one you were considering? If you're not the impatient sort I'll post my thoughts on it once I get it, so you can make a more informed decision then. It most certainly seems to do the job though, judging by how the guys in the video I just posted talk about theirs.

 

[Pigeon_Droppings2]

Yeah but I think the 206 p clone is old news now as yes when I stripped the one down back in March

I always remember when I was offered a cracking deal on a Mk3 escort....but no I had to have the Mk4!....that taught be a valuable lesson that sometimes old tried and tested isn't always a bad choice.

I still remember putting my shopping in the boot and when I got home I was missing several tins of beans....turned out there was a big hole in the boot floor!

Maybe it's the Jasic equivalent of the Dacia Duster....old tech from a few years back out of the Renault parts bin. Provided it works I imagine a lot of people on here wont mind if the price is right...just a shame all the stock disappeared so quick!

 

[Pigeon_Droppings2]

But you have to compare like with like in terms of price...£450 won't buy a used Jasic pro with zero warranty...they rarely come up for sale and when they do they are £700+...I kept an eye out for years.

I just look at the Sherman as a £450 punt...like buying a used machine on eBay. If it lasts long enough for me to learn TIG that will have been worth it

Bbe555....can you get hold of Kemppi machines cheaper than list?

 

[Chris_m89]

Hi everyone, my name's Anton and I'm new to the forums! I've just gone and ordered myself a Sherman 210P AC/DC Tig welder:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SHERMAN-...-210-AC-DC-PULSE-MMA-controlling/224062059765

Does anyone have any experience with this particular model? I guess this one is not a case of "Jasic in disguise" as it looks completely different, but then again who knows what's hiding inside... If it's made by the same factory, perhaps it shares internal components?

Anyway, the welder I picked came highly recommended by the guys over atv Raptors garage who have been using theirs for just over a year and it seems to be working quite nicely for them, so I'm hoping it'll do just fine for me as well:

What steered me towards this particular welder is the 60% duty cycle rather than 40% on the 206, I'm hoping this means the machine will be a bit more heavy duty so to speak... But I guess time will tell lol.

I ordered mine from the Shermanprofii Ebay store and I paid £450 including foot pedal and gas regulator, plus £20 shipping. That's as cheap as I could find it anywhere, a lot of other seller had it listed for £550+ so I'm hoping I got a bargain.

I'll be sure to return with a review once it arrives, I'm thinking it might be of interest to know a bit more about sherman as a brand and find out what the rest of their models are like since you guys have already established that the 206 is a Jasic clone and thus simply awesome for the price. I'm hoping my machine will perform well too, if not then at least I can serve as a warning example to those who are considering getting anything other than the 206 lol.

Cheers!

you'll have to keep up the trend of taking the covers off and posting some pictures, so we can all ogle the electronics. ive still been playing around with 216p ans it been performing nicely only issues ive had are not very user friendly menu and the ac balance is only 5% either way but other than that good machine so far

 

[Pigeon_Droppings2]

Dont use Kemppi as over priced for me as repaired them so I know what's inside will let you know when next items come up as will pm you rather than advertise .

I like the look of the Kemppi 325 synergetic TIG ...looks the nuts...but the £5k price tag isn't the nuts

 

[Sparky666]

@Bbe555 how are you getting on with the latest Jasic set?

 

[90anlu92]

you'll have to keep up the trend of taking the covers off and posting some pictures, so we can all ogle the electronics. ive still been playing around with 216p ans it been performing nicely only issues ive had are not very user friendly menu and the ac balance is only 5% either way but other than that good machine so far

I'll see what I can do and what I'm allowed to do without voiding the warranty. If nothing else I can dismantle it in a years time, but maybe not the first thing I'll want to do once I get it lol.

 

[jhobson]

Just got a nice covid facemask delivered from Spain so I'm all ready for 24th. Came with instructions in Polish... AND English! Instructions seem to be for a Welder though. Hurrah! Plugged welder in via euro plug converter and it switches on. Let's hope it doesn't end in disappointment. Now need gas, rods, and scrap metal so I can make more scrap.
Package had been opened - don't know if by Spain or customs, but everything seems present and correct including torch and consumables. No stick welding holder, no tube for argon but does come with quick-release fitting for tube. No chipping hammer/brush.

 

[Altintas]

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