Sherman Tig (Jasic in disguise?)

[Ruffian]

Hi everyone! My first foray into welding...

After lots of reading and watching YouTube videos, finding this thread, thinking about this machine, being swayed to another machine... then being recommended this machine by @daedalusminos and @Ruffian and swaying back to it again, I decided to go for it! Sherman 206P ordered last night from weldes along with some other bits and bobs from various places.

I've also ordered:

• Sealey TIG200HFACDCF pedal + reverse XS12-5 connector from weldes to put on it (handy that they are reading this thread and started stocking commonly needed items, saves us waiting for China post!)
• 10x 2.4 mm Tungstens (dare I mention the colour for fear of starting a fight?!)
• CK Worldwide CK17 Flex head torch
• Grounded Schuko to UK 3-pin plug adaptor (temporary -- I won't be pushing that many amps for now)

For the torch I was thinking of something like https://www.r-techwelding.co.uk/tig-torch-35-50-adaptor-3-8bsp-quick-release/ and then using a M10 to quick fit adaptor on the machine, but I can't seem to find any M10 to quick fit adaptors and I'm not sure what the dimensions of that quick fit plug are. Can anyone please recommend a tried and tested method here? Loving the look of @Altintas 's modded machine in the post above this one and the connector used, but I'd prefer not to mod my machine while it's in warranty with weldes. In a couple of years that looks like the neatest way to do it for sure!

Other than that I just need a regulator and flow meter right?

Cheers!

For ease I got the press fit rectus 21 for the back of the machine. And made a joiner for the front out of the m10 connector off the torch then press fit the rectus 21 into the torch.

If that makes sence.
So make it as a fly lead.

Like this

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/222400163506

That way dont have to modify the machine and can alter it externally.

 

[PSweeney]

Boughtt a 206P from Weldes but they don't have stock of the pedal. Is there another pedal I use with this machine as I'm struggling with AC on aluminium without it

 

[daedalusminos]

Boughtt a 206P from Weldes but they don't have stock of the pedal. Is there another pedal I use with this machine as I'm struggling with AC on aluminium without it

Have you contacted them directly? Also note that they do (or did) a TIG kit 206p + pedal for £480

 

[Munkul]

Boughtt a 206P from Weldes but they don't have stock of the pedal. Is there another pedal I use with this machine as I'm struggling with AC on aluminium without it

Only Americans need TIG pedals You need 3mm+ alloy to practice on, and hood time.

 

[PSweeney]

Have you contacted them directly? Also note that they do (or did) a TIG kit 206p + pedal for £480

couldn't order the kit as the pedals not in stock, needed it for a small job sooner

 

[PSweeney]

Only Americans need TIG pedals You need 3mm+ alloy to practice on, and hood time.

haven't done a huge amount of aluminium so I'm used to welding slower on steel in DC. I can vary my travel speed but bead width is suffering and I just find a pedal easier.

 

[Chris Snow]

Boughtt a 206P from Weldes but they don't have stock of the pedal. Is there another pedal I use with this machine as I'm struggling with AC on aluminium without it

I have a spare which I don't really need.. PM me if it's of interest.

 

[marcis]

Finally got the consumables and spent my first few TIG welding hours. A lot of learning ahead...
The main conclusion at this point is - the Sherman works and I am very happy with it.

 

[Gazz292]

I am looking to get a tig welder to replace my little mig, was originally going to go for one of the cheapo dc only machines, but this thread has me really wanting one of these,

on weldes.co.uk site they have the 206p ac dc for £563, but for £399 the welder fantasy 202 : https://weldes.co.uk/gb/tig-acdc-gtaw-welders/924-welder-fantasy-tig-lux-202-acdc.html

the really naff name is putting me off, but does anyone know the difference between the sherman and the welder fantasy?

 

[daedalusminos]

If you'd read this thread then you'll understand why the thread has been created.

 

[Gazz292]

yeah, i know the sherman 206p is an exact copy of the jasic machine,

but peppered all over the thread are posts of other machines that look identical,
is the sherman machine the only one that is using the exact same parts as the jasic,

i saw that some people had accidentally bought the sherman 216p, and that was nothing like the jasic 200 inside... so i guess i have my answer for the 202 machine

 

[daedalusminos]

yeah, i know the sherman 206p is an exact copy of the jasic machine,

but peppered all over the thread are posts of other machines that look identical,
is the sherman machine the only one that is using the exact same parts as the jasic,

i saw that some people had accidentally bought the sherman 216p, and that was nothing like the jasic 200 inside... so i guess i have my answer for the 202 machine

I think the problem is no one would be able to pass judgement on any other Sherman model....they might be great or they could just be run of the mill import.

Looks as though the 206P has increased slightly in price since I bought...still good value considering the Jasic is £1300!

 

[Mark 2]

I have a spare which I don't really need.. PM me if it's of interest.

I'd be interested if not already spoken for Chris.

 

[Richiew]

It has exactly the same buttons/lights/features showing on the control panel as the Sherman. It would be an awful lot of effort to make something different internally to use the same panel. Cant say for sure unless you get it bought and take it apart. Same can be said for Jasic/Sherman comparison and we know how that went.

 

[Chris Snow]

I'd be interested if not already spoken for Chris

Sold to @PSweeney sorry.

 

[AdamS]

My 206P arrived on Thurs, can't believe how compact it is! Good thing I ordered when I did as I see it's gone back up to £560 now.

Picked up a big bottle of argon yesterday and now just waiting for some consumables and an argon hose to arrive . If I get time tomorrow I'll rewire the Sealey pedal, then should be ready to go on Monday when the remaining things arrive !

 

[Altintas]

Build my own torch

 

[PSweeney]

Anybody got any links to an affordable gas thru dinze connector to connect a CK 3/8 BSP to this machine ?

 

[Munkul]

A gas thru dinse would suggest a Fronius type affair with a hole straight through and no seperate gas pipe. Do you mean a 3/8" BSP Dinse adapter? They're widely available.

 

[Popcorn]

https://www.rapidwelding.com/dynamic/DisplayItem.aspx?c=CK-SL235-BSP&zl=2