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A few random pictures of the big Record vice, No 48.
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I finally got the Record No.6
The little one is a Record No.1
Dad had cleaned it up a bit when he got it back and I took it all apart and cleaned/degreased it before putting it all back together. It's been a bit abused, there's hammer marks on jaws, handle and slide which makes it quite stiff at it's max opening but other than that, it's fine.
The little one is a Record No.1
Dad had cleaned it up a bit when he got it back and I took it all apart and cleaned/degreased it before putting it all back together. It's been a bit abused, there's hammer marks on jaws, handle and slide which makes it quite stiff at it's max opening but other than that, it's fine.
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No Pics but I have a 125/1222 facom vice, no quick release but it swivels and has a set of "pipe" jawsunder the main ones, I was given it, I looked on line to nsse that they cost in excess of £400
,is it just the name or is there something special about them?
Chris
,is it just the name or is there something special about them?Chris
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Bit of a size difference between the two Maker. Looks like a good one. Hammer/chisel/weld/pipe abuse isn't unusual with a used vice. You can easily enough dress the slide with a file to remove those ridges/burrs which are causing the tightness. If you use a fine file with quite light finger pressure on top of the file, and make sure to keep it parallel with the surface you're dressing, you'll feel it start to skate across the surface somewhat once you've removed the burr/ridge. That's when to stop filing.
Just had a quick look. Those appear to be of decent quality, judging from the photo's, so I'm guessing they're likely just of good manufacture. Some of the price will be due to the name/brand alone, but they look stout enough too, from the photo's.
Looks like a good one. Hammer/chisel/weld/pipe abuse isn't unusual with a used vice. You can easily enough dress the slide with a file to remove those ridges/burrs which are causing the tightness. If you use a fine file with quite light finger pressure on top of the file, and make sure to keep it parallel with the surface you're dressing, you'll feel it start to skate across the surface somewhat once you've removed the burr/ridge. That's when to stop filing. No Pics but I have a 125/1222 facom vice, no quick release but it swivels and has a set of "pipe" jawsunder the main ones, I was given it, I looked on line to nsse that they cost in excess of £400
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Just had a quick look. Those appear to be of decent quality, judging from the photo's, so I'm guessing they're likely just of good manufacture. Some of the price will be due to the name/brand alone, but they look stout enough too, from the photo's.
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That price is down to them being made from SG/Ductile Iron not grey cast iron. SG Iron is much harder to cast well so costs more, but has the advantage of being much stronger.
In SG (spheroidal graphite) Iron the the graphite is in small balls instead of the flakes in normal grey cast iron and it's that difference that gives the crack resistance.
Take a look at any of the record SG Iron vices for a price comparison, the T84-34, 36, 112, 114.
In SG (spheroidal graphite) Iron the the graphite is in small balls instead of the flakes in normal grey cast iron and it's that difference that gives the crack resistance.
Take a look at any of the record SG Iron vices for a price comparison, the T84-34, 36, 112, 114.
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Fabricated from plate? Seems pretty cool, how much was it?
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Similar construction to the Record Leader range of vices which were welded and bent plate to, I'm guessing all the manufacturers had a little play with that style at the time.
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I don't know, the sale is tomorrow I just went for a wonder round to see if there was anything worth putting a reserve on.
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Aye, that's the type. Quite an unusual piece, aren't they.
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Yeah, that's the eBay one, I was watching it at the time but couldn't decide ... it sold for 32 quid in the end.
It wasn't till I got the fabricated Record that I realised how nice these welded vices are..... I was told that they were too expensive to make which is why they stopped. That said they did make them for a number of years (the Record ones, my Herbert catalogue is too old and doesn't list them)
It wasn't till I got the fabricated Record that I realised how nice these welded vices are..... I was told that they were too expensive to make which is why they stopped. That said they did make them for a number of years (the Record ones, my Herbert catalogue is too old and doesn't list them)
Bought this vice tonight at a local auction.
Seems to have had little use, though there are a few spots of weld on it.
It has a strange quick release mechanism that I haven't worked out yet. It has 4" jaws, 4.25" opening and 2.5" jaw depth. It also has a set of pipe grip jaws. Doesn't seem to be that old, the original shop barcode is still stuck to it. It does say Made in Sheffield England on it so I'm hoping it's one of the last English made ones before production moved to China.
Any of you come across an SQ3 before?
Seems to have had little use, though there are a few spots of weld on it.
It has a strange quick release mechanism that I haven't worked out yet. It has 4" jaws, 4.25" opening and 2.5" jaw depth. It also has a set of pipe grip jaws. Doesn't seem to be that old, the original shop barcode is still stuck to it. It does say Made in Sheffield England on it so I'm hoping it's one of the last English made ones before production moved to China.Any of you come across an SQ3 before?
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Yep, I've seen those before. The quick release works by turning the handle about 1 turn in the undoing direction and then the jaw should slide freely. Then just tighten the handle again.
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Looks like we both dropped the ball on that one then. I couldn't decide one way or the other either, with it being of welded plate construction. At least we know better now.
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That's definitely an English one. It's the ones which just say "Sheffield, England", without the "Made in" part which might be either/either, though even that's unknown.
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I've never seen a metalworker's vice like that before but I know there's a company who make woodworker's vices like that though. How well does it hold compared to a manly leadscrew?
