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Is that a saw setting clamp/vice?
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Nice saw sharpening vice.
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Yes it is.Nice saw sharpening vice.
And it is MINE MINE MINE.
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My latest purchase turned up today German in origin i think
has a some very unusual design features which should help to identify it as this one has no markings as i can see
there is grey and black remnants of colour, 4.5 inch jaw and im guessing around 15 kg
Has a similar piggy nose similar to another east german vice i have
i have never seen this before, semi circle retaining jaw plates, the screws are completely undamaged due to this design
slots to put in a captive nut where it would be bolted up through the bench
split washer for rear of spindle as well as a retaining pin
speaking of colours, my research has identified that my latest German vice originally had orange paint, i noticed a few bits of orange paint on all sides of mine so it does appear to have been originally orange
not sure i could paint a vice orange, i might get ridiculed on this site
photo taken off youtube, someone in Germany has the same vice albeit larger, and doesnt know the manufacturer either!
Hi
Of course, right at the beginning, when you introduced this new acquisition, I felt called to say something about it.
Unfortunately, I have not been able to make a clear classification in the meantime, but I can share my observations:
- The design clearly points to a German manufacturer, whereby one must understand Germany in its largest extension, thus also including Poland, Kaliningrad, the Czech Republic, Austria and other areas, because large foundries are notoriously difficult to move and take with one when the enemy approaches;
- The "piggy nose" is more often seen on German vises and not a specific feature of GDR vises - you only need the outermost radius to drive the spindle, steel was always expensive and in the East they adopted all the material-cutting measures and in many cases pushed them further;
- This vice has strong similarities to Eikar, manufactured by Breitenfeld & Scholz in Bunzlau, now Bolesławiec in south-west Poland.
There, too, one could not save much more than one's naked skin when one fled, and so a successor company in Poland later had a good start.
- However, I also see differences, e.g. I haven't seen the captive nut in the cast on the underside anywhere;
- But what I think I can say for sure is that it is not from socialist production:
Obove is clearly a measure to "convince" the customer to continue buying all spare parts and accessories from me in the future.
Breitenfeld & Scholz had some patents to enshure exactly that.
This is the exact opposite of the "use of identical parts" as it was practised in the East and is also today in large companies.
(That's why today I sometimes like to work with equipment made in the East, for example: A watchmaker needs a timing machine, and the Swiss and German manufacturers have outdone themselves in making the paper strips smaller and the ink ribbons more and more exotic in order to secure follow-up orders.
The opposite was true in the Eastern Bloc: there was essentially only one timing machine,
the PPTsch-7m
which everyone had and which had to run everywhere. Consequence still today: any ordinary typewriter ribbon and a normal cash register roll fits for working and recording).
- For me, it is also clear that the specimen is a pre-war vice from somewhere in the (former) German-speaking world; in the East, these extravagant jaws would have been an immediate thing of the past.
Keep us updated when you find out more,
will do the same.
Carsten
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I had one of them.
But I like my new one better, as it came with german shepard puppy cuddles.
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Saw sharpening is quite enjoyable. Beats watching rubbish television programs.
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I have been following this thread (and only this thread so far on this site) for the last year or so. Really enjoy it and learning a lot.
Thought I should at least voice [type] my thanks to all posters.
I have many vices, and a few vices are one of them. I will attempt some photos and post them up. Nothing much unusual though.
Keep up the good work!
Thought I should at least voice [type] my thanks to all posters.
I have many vices, and a few vices are one of them. I will attempt some photos and post them up. Nothing much unusual though.
Keep up the good work!
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Ohh, that's nice.
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I haven't acquired a cam-lock yet. Seadog's looks unmolested by evil drill bits.
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" Ours " ? You mean you'd share ?
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The reversible jaw is a nice feature.
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Yes. I would." Ours " ? You mean you'd share ?
Me, myself and I.
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I sometimes clean and repaint, sometimes not. A little record 00.
What I nearly always do is forget to take pics. So the before is more like part way through...
And after,
It still shows it's past history under the new paint
What I nearly always do is forget to take pics. So the before is more like part way through...
And after,
It still shows it's past history under the new paint
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My leg vice, still not mounted. But it got the tidy up treatment
There 'may' also be 3 others vices in that pic...
There 'may' also be 3 others vices in that pic...
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Record imp. In all it's unrestored beauty.
One i never actually researched, a Dinky
A zyliss, lead screw is sightly bent unfortunately, so will need a little work at since stage.
And the pièce de résistance!
My main working vice, no name record knockoff I suspect, probably 40-50 years old, it's been beaten, weld splattered, drilled, pieces broken of, etc. But still going strong ish. Belonged to my grandfather, so it's staying on the bench.
Editing to say, please excuse the current state of my work bench, but really it nearly always looks like that!
One i never actually researched, a Dinky
A zyliss, lead screw is sightly bent unfortunately, so will need a little work at since stage.
And the pièce de résistance!
My main working vice, no name record knockoff I suspect, probably 40-50 years old, it's been beaten, weld splattered, drilled, pieces broken of, etc. But still going strong ish. Belonged to my grandfather, so it's staying on the bench.
Editing to say, please excuse the current state of my work bench, but really it nearly always looks like that!
