Show us your bench vice(s)

[dannysheff]

I'm not even going to try to post or link, and all due respect to those who could be offended, but I searched 'vice' on ebay today without the usual category controls and found a picture of one of our vice seeker members who'd obviously lost the shirt off their back and more (an emperor/press not even wearing BLO) in a desperate effort to win that fabled 9in jaw Woden QR plus stand.


(search UK eba "the vice seekers mel herold")

 

[25.4_mechanic]

I'm not even going to try to post or link, and all due respect to those who could be offended, but I searched 'vice' on ebay today without the usual category controls and found a picture of one of our vice seeker members who'd obviously lost the shirt off their back and more (an emperor not even wearing BLO) in a desperate effort to win that fabled 9in jaw Woden QR plus stand.
(search UK eba "the vice seekers mel herold")

the seller is interesting in this context:

Carsten

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[MattF]

The "sale to minors forbidden", stamped on the arris, made me chuckle.

 

[SteveB58]

I'm not even going to try to post or link, and all due respect to those who could be offended, but I searched 'vice' on ebay today without the usual category controls and found a picture of one of our vice seeker members who'd obviously lost the shirt off their back and more (an emperor/press not even wearing BLO) in a desperate effort to win that fabled 9in jaw Woden QR plus stand.


(search UK eba "the vice seekers mel herold")

Moderate tanning to pages? Judging by the cover I'd consider that the least of your problems.

 

[ranger08]

Looks good naked

 

[dannysheff]

Enough of this, vice seekers --- how about a 'vice of the year', with it coming on to the the12th month any day now?

What are your votes for what vice impresses you the most, be it quality, size, rarity, newness, age, a first, paint job, restoration effort. etc? Off the cuff I'd go for Ranger's QR curiosity on pages 372-373 - a fascinating ur-vice/proto-vice?

Or then again, I wouldn't half like to have bagged arc-tourist's Fortis-on-a-stand see p 367-368 -- looked good and turned out to be so perfect.

What say you folk? (not excluding the new naturist wing of vice seekers anon (hey, I said enough of this)).

In event of a tie - maybe MattF should choose, after all he started this thread.

 

[MattF]

Hell no! I ain't gonna get the dead-eye.

 

[ranger08]

Good idea Dannysheff will have a think

just bye the bye
i have a few record imps now two with patent stamps and several with a round nose and no patent stamps
there are differences in them and i believe i can now place them in chronological order, arc your 7638 post fits in nicely regarding retaining plates

what i believe to be my oldest imp has several differences to the others
1. the front spindle retaining plate is hardened and shows no wear, note one on left is a round nose model with no patent stamp, and this one is stamped "oil here" upside down!

2. the stamping of the slide is bolder and what appears to be a different font in the next version

3. the top of the front retaining plate does not recess into the housing which appears was a design improvement after the very first production run

then recessed

and continued on

the clamp handle ends were turned over on the patent models

then just crimped

there is also a very slight change in the nose, blunter in the earliest models then slightly more pointed

so i believe the very first runs had heavier stamping on the slide and hardened retaining plates that were not recessed into the housings

 

[Arc Tourist]

Good idea Dannysheff will have a think

just bye the bye
i have a few record imps now two with patent stamps and several with a round nose and no patent stamps
there are differences in them and i believe i can now place them in chronological order, arc your 7638 post fits in nicely regarding retaining plates
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View attachment 374664

Sorry, I could not find the post number " 7638 " which you mentioned ? We are only up to 7610 at the moment.

 

[Lugh Lámfada]

This 'little' fellow followed me home from the carboot today. Not entirely certain why it did though.
Interesting colours to it!

Record 94 1/2
What is it with record using 1/2 in model names?
A little spray and a little persuasion and all bolts are free. That's easier than I was expecting. That's all its getting for now I'm afraid, oil the bolts and then it's going up on a shelf for a future tidy up

 

[Lugh Lámfada]

I'm going to drop these in here as well, not a vice though, so if any one prefers that I remove them just ask and I'll delete.
Kant twist clamps, seen these only online before today. These are really interesting!

What I never knew about these are the clamping jaws rotate to give different options.

These were also picked at the carboot this morning, but they were not a cheap ad on. I've steelwool cleaned the blued parts of one of these, but they are in nice condition. Now to see if I get use out of them!

 

[Arc Tourist]

This 'little' fellow followed me home from the carboot today. Not entirely certain why it did though.
Interesting colours to it!
View attachment 374694
Record 94 1/2
What is it with record using 1/2 in model names? .......................................

You must be younger than a lot of us on here ? The vice was likely made before the metric revolution, hence the Imperial designation.

 

[arian]

I'm going to drop these in here as well, not a vice though, so if any one prefers that I remove them just ask and I'll delete.
Kant twist clamps, seen these only online before today. These are really interesting!
View attachment 374707
What I never knew about these are the clamping jaws rotate to give different options.
View attachment 374708
These were also picked at the carboot this morning, but they were not a cheap ad on. I've steelwool cleaned the blued parts of one of these, but they are in nice condition. Now to see if I get use out of them!

As well as the rotating jaws, the hole in the jaw bottom left of the picture was for a plastic disc.

I think they're really good clamps - I've got a couple. Most are green like yours, but one, for some reason, is red.

ETA: There was also the option of a third arm, which clipped onto the pivot.

 

[25.4_mechanic]

You must be younger than a lot of us on here ? The vice was likely made before the metric revolution, hence the Imperial designation.

What do you mean by that, Mike?

Since I don't see anything in the pictures with 2400mm (94.5") should that mean series 9 and 4.5"? And what does the 4.5" stand for then? Thanks.

I am at least the same age, but from Metria.

Carsten

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[timgunn1962]

I think you are right with Series 9 and 4 1/2" opening. The 1/2 effectively tells you it will hold the whole number size of pipe: 4" Nominal Bore, DN100, pipe has a 4.50" OD, for example. If you are mauling 2", DN50, pipe, you need a 92 1/2 pipe vice, etc.

 

[25.4_mechanic]

I think you are right with Series 9 and 4 1/2" opening. The 1/2 effectively tells you it will hold the whole number size of pipe: 4" Nominal Bore, DN100, pipe has a 4.50" OD, for example. If you are mauling 2", DN50, pipe, you need a 92 1/2 pipe vice, etc.

Thanks Tim

Same age,



Carsten

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[Lugh Lámfada]

You must be younger than a lot of us on here ? The vice was likely made before the metric revolution, hence the Imperial designation.

I'm under 50, but not for much longer
I understand the 4.5 now that is in conjunction with the series 9 information, as with Carsten 94.5 is over 2.4m to me, which is what I couldn't understand.

P.s. I have spend my career working in structural engineering, everything in metric, I have a very limited grasp of imperial

 

[Arc Tourist]

I think you are right with Series 9 and 4 1/2" opening. The 1/2 effectively tells you it will hold the whole number size of pipe: 4" Nominal Bore, DN100, pipe has a 4.50" OD, for example. If you are mauling 2", DN50, pipe, you need a 92 1/2 pipe vice, etc.

I can not visualize that this Record vice is capable of accommodating a 4 1/2" pipe. It would be interesting if Lugh would put up a photo with a tape measuring across the opening.

 

[Lugh Lámfada]

Ask and you shall receive, this is quite a large vice, I looked for something around the 4.5 in dia, the roll of tape is just a touch under.

 

[Lugh Lámfada]

I think you are right with Series 9 and 4 1/2" opening. The 1/2 effectively tells you it will hold the whole number size of pipe: 4" Nominal Bore, DN100, pipe has a 4.50" OD, for example. If you are mauling 2", DN50, pipe, you need a 92 1/2 pipe vice, etc.

Just to prove my imperial ignorance...
If this series 9, 4.5 capacity is a working theory, then wouldn't it make sense that it carried across the different vice ranges? the last vice I posted was the woodworkers vice, a 52 1/2, so series 5 and 2.5 inch, and this it isn't, but neither is it over 1300mm?