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Interesting, a high parting line and 'vice' spelling. What is also interesting to see is the screw head (somewhat chewed up) that is cast in next to the name plate.
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My No 9 is a Parkinson's Perfect Vice with high parting line and all cast-in text on the right, no model no but 6 1/2in wide jaws (although at some point these replaced with 7in jaw facing). re your assumption that the two part might be heavier - mine weighs 119lbs.
A couple of other points that might differ - locating pin (see Matt's red example) as well as 2 bolts screw-down on static 2 part, and I do have one older Parky with 4 separate bolts rather than bent rod threaded at ea end - but this may have been a repair?
there is a pic somewhere on this thread, but won't repeat as about to show a quite different vice
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On a roll --- Just returned from refurb shop (greenhouse bench) with some more pix.
No - it's lost all its extras, and to be quite honest, I don't want 'em (except maybe the pipe jaws, but could make such?) - the bare bones is a pretty good vice (unlike most do-it-all tools) with useful anvil and a couple of bending curves - it's gonna replace the Record 74 I used in basement w'shop for 25+ years - a fine tool, but I have a thing about rarities.
No - it's lost all its extras, and to be quite honest, I don't want 'em (except maybe the pipe jaws, but could make such?) - the bare bones is a pretty good vice (unlike most do-it-all tools) with useful anvil and a couple of bending curves - it's gonna replace the Record 74 I used in basement w'shop for 25+ years - a fine tool, but I have a thing about rarities.
that is uber cool, im always a sucker for a brass name tag
Yes , it was seized, but I managed to get it cleaned up and working
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here we go -- Tyzack, (Shoreditch dealer) 1908 catalogue pages ___
you're most welcome to add these to your dropbox which you so kindly keep open for all
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How strange, the sizes went 9, 9c, 9a, 9b. The 9b does look to be the weight range for the biggest in that previous advert.
I'll add those to my dropbox when I get my laptop working again!
I'll add those to my dropbox when I get my laptop working again!
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Here's a vice:
look familiar?? - it has only CG as a possible maker's name (the CG1 is on the static, there's CG2 on the dynamic and a 3 on the base) - and the patent 155084 Oct 1919 (anyone?)
this is very much the same as the Parky Ball Base Vise size A but different main castings and some different details on the ball joint (slightly different internals, slightly more extensive ball area, tighten anti- instead of clock-) but the same excellent machining of 4 spherical surfaces, to give a fine ball action swivel and tilt --- only thing with these is - don't just loosen the lever - risk your workpiece collapsing onto the bench - there's only a degree or so between loose and tight - Great when you're used to it. Best to hold on to workpiece while adjusting position - unlike many later cheapo ball-joint jewellers' vices etc - this one will hold its position well if don aright.
The patent no. is the same as quoted in Parky's catalogue of 1935, so I would guess that they bought the rights from CG, (but it's poss this was a prototype without their name?).
Here together::__
looking through paint layers, looks like the CG was red all over (very thick paint turned powdery and black on outside) whereas the Parky was prob white base and green vice as shown, but repainted at least once.
look familiar?? - it has only CG as a possible maker's name (the CG1 is on the static, there's CG2 on the dynamic and a 3 on the base) - and the patent 155084 Oct 1919 (anyone?)
this is very much the same as the Parky Ball Base Vise size A but different main castings and some different details on the ball joint (slightly different internals, slightly more extensive ball area, tighten anti- instead of clock-) but the same excellent machining of 4 spherical surfaces, to give a fine ball action swivel and tilt --- only thing with these is - don't just loosen the lever - risk your workpiece collapsing onto the bench - there's only a degree or so between loose and tight - Great when you're used to it. Best to hold on to workpiece while adjusting position - unlike many later cheapo ball-joint jewellers' vices etc - this one will hold its position well if don aright.
The patent no. is the same as quoted in Parky's catalogue of 1935, so I would guess that they bought the rights from CG, (but it's poss this was a prototype without their name?).
Here together::__
looking through paint layers, looks like the CG was red all over (very thick paint turned powdery and black on outside) whereas the Parky was prob white base and green vice as shown, but repainted at least once.
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Where did you find that little baby? It's so different and so similar at the same time! 
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can't remember but I think it might have been on local gumtree - haven't looked there for quite a while, maybe I shouldWhere did you find that little baby? It's so different and so similar at the same time!
- no, d, you have quite enough - just keep tidying up the ones you have
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What is this 'enough' that you speak of?
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and another - couple of years ago vice-folk here showed some images of their versions of this - as I remember maker unknown, often found in a farm environment as mine - did anyone find who made them? - I think mine is smaller than those (4in wide jaw) , but same principal, design
this showed remains of red paint on cast parts and pipe jaws, black paint on the enclosing fabricated body
after posting these I see that my thin coat of paint is too thin in places and a bit run over in others - will tidy up with a few more licks and a file
obviously the use of the vice would be mostly in a horizontal position, but if it was used mostly as a pipe vice the vertical might be best.
had enough of my summer vices yet??
this showed remains of red paint on cast parts and pipe jaws, black paint on the enclosing fabricated body
after posting these I see that my thin coat of paint is too thin in places and a bit run over in others - will tidy up with a few more licks and a file
obviously the use of the vice would be mostly in a horizontal position, but if it was used mostly as a pipe vice the vertical might be best.
had enough of my summer vices yet??
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Love that file handle. Hope you've got a file card for cleaning the teeth and a bit of chalk to prevent clogging.
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nice - called a 'farmer's vise' in USA?
does it work like a sash cramp? - needs a pin through the hole on the 'patent side' to go through the bar?
Yes works like a sash clamp, needs a pin, stamp on other side says its a "farmers handy tool"
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I had the same weights in my excel taken from many different catalogues. (I've had to note QR and Plain screw as the same weights as I can find no separate data)
The J Buck catalogue of 1912 showed all the sizes... see below. (They are the Buck of latter Buck & Hickman)
And the 1912 cat showed single piece housings, so 2 piece were earlier.
Anyone ever seen a size 4 ???
The letter added to the primary number seems to have no logic.
9c was a heavier version of 9
9a was however produced in a lighter version or a heavy version.
The 9b was different. It was offered as standard at 260 lbs or with adjustable front pillar at 287 lbs. It can be seen in the catalogue page below - right hand sectional drawing. Interesting design - never seen one before.
I have a 9 Plain... for sale if anyone interested... its almost 52kg so pick up only.... Reasonable nick.
It's a real beast. It stands me at £50 as it was £40 + £10 fuel to pick it up.
It's too large for my shotblast cabinet, so either manual clean or sell.... SELL... anyone interested let me know.
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