Show us your bench vice(s)

[wheresmejumper]

I am not averse to looking like a spanner.i have the obligatory backwards colourdy hat on most of the day.
do they have a lot of clamping force?its something i would have doubted before

 

[MattF]

Can't say for definite, but I'd guess they'd be pretty close on clamping force. The design of them means they wouldn't stand outright abuse half as well as a bench vice due to the lack of mass, and they might be a gnats more prone to flex slightly, but when you think of the weight of some pieces of wood which get clamped in a wood vice, I'd guess they aren't as frail as one might think, if you get a decent one. The only damage I've ever seen to them is the mounting lugs, but never jaw breakage or such.

Thinking about it, I'm actually half tempted to try this out myself now someday, just to see whether they would make a decent bench top vice or not.

 

[CwazyWabbit]

If you go for the older wood vices they usually have supporting ribs behind the rear jaw so that should reduce the flex, they seem to have been deleted on more recent models as it's more awkward to fit with the ribs.

Anyway, has to be worth a try as you can pick 'em up for around twenty quid which is certainly a lot cheaper than the rigid.

 

[wheresmejumper]

Just won this Paramo or 'Panamo' as the seller put it.no 6 for £36
Will be a couple of weeks before im back in London to collect it,but the condition looks good from the distant pic

 

[winchman]

Thanks
Just had another look
Its defiantly an 84, its blue under the black paint.

It looks worse than it is really, going to clean and paint and possibly mount on a post in the garden.

Just bought another well it would be rude not to have a pair!
It looks identical quick release too but on the side it says Record Steel? Is it the same? which one should I keep? and how much should I ask for one once restored?
Could some one post a link to how to strip them?
I was toying with shot blasting or should I just wire brush them?

 

[CwazyWabbit]

The "Record Steel" will be the older of the two, most likely the end of the main screw where the handle goes through will be a different shape on the old one.

I personally would avoid shot blasting as it will leave a rough finish to the machined areas, wire brush or electrolysis would be my preferred methods.

 

[CwazyWabbit]

This any help?

 

[Nick67GT]

My old No. 22 Record.

Inherited from my dad who ran a precision engineering company. It was in daily use until he retired in the mid-eighties and sold up.

Still works well to this day.

 

[Member 66061]

Ive also got a Record 34 that needs cleaned and painted, but i cant find new jaws for it.

 

[123hotchef]

ill have to take some pics tomorrow its too cold out there now

 

[CwazyWabbit]

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Ive also got a Record 34 that needs cleaned and painted, but i cant find new jaws for it.

The 34 and 84 models were merged to become the 84/34 so I doubt you'll find 34 jaws anymore. Perhaps something from this link would fit? http://www.tradetoolshop.com/catalogsearch/result/index/?limit=all&q=vice+jaws or if you post the dimensions of your 34 jaws then perhaps people could post the dimensions of other record vice jaws and you might find a match.....

 

[winchman]

The "Record Steel" will be the older of the two, most likely the end of the main screw where the handle goes through will be a different shape on the old one.

I personally would avoid shot blasting as it will leave a rough finish to the machined areas, wire brush or electrolysis would be my preferred methods.

Thanks
Would they be the same quality?
Any idea of age?

 

[CwazyWabbit]

The 84 doesn't appear in the 1935 catalogue and by the 1950 catalogue they are no longer steel but malleable iron, so I'd guess it is somewhere between those two dates. Both material types were described as unbreakable by Record.
I have two record 36's, one steel and one malleable iron, whilst the steel one looks nicer the iron one appears to be strengthened in a number of places and in fact the steel one was bent when I got it which required straightening.
Depending on how much of an animal you are I doubt you'll find and real difference between them.

 

[winchman]

Thanks
I will get the both out next week and have a proper look, ones going on a base in the garden the other will be sold, what should I ask?
It will be cleaned and painted first

 

[Screwdriver]

My old No. 22 Record.

Inherited from my dad who ran a precision engineering company. It was in daily use until he retired in the mid-eighties and sold up.

Still works well to this day.View attachment 79167

Wow. Now there's an example of someone who looks after their tools. Nice!

S.

 

[Screwdriver]

Apologies for posting this again but I'll also be interested in any further info on the Record 84. 84M in this case.

It has the "acorn" style machined screw fitting so it must be the older type. I'm guessing it must be circa late 50's mid 60's but could be as late as 70's. All I know is it is in amazing condition for its age, be nice to nail down a year of manufacture.

Screwd.

 

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