Tig cooler

[Hood]

Here is the pic.

 

[Hood]

There are also loads of Chinese ones, as said what quality will be like may be hit or miss and delivery time can be likewise from China, here is one
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Water-Cooled-Gas-Adapter-Quick-Hose-Fitting-Connector-For-MIG-TIG-Welder-Torch/162239906254?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid=222007&algo=SIC.MBE&ao=2&asc=38661&meid=fdfc8ed3fb6544a5a1664258bc28e268&pid=100005&rk=2&rkt=6&sd=291869336000

Ah actually these ones are supposedly in the UK although delivery time suggests otherwise.

 

[dazza]

Theres a tig with an interesting cooler/cart on eBay.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/murex-ac-...618358?hash=item3ad63ff2f6:g:vtAAAOSw2xRYZhu~

 

[Richard.]

Theres a tig with an interesting cooler/cart on eBay.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/murex-ac-...618358?hash=item3ad63ff2f6:g:vtAAAOSw2xRYZhu~

They are great machines those old murex 201's
That's over priced given they are quite a while out of production.

 

[dazza]

They are great machines those old murex 201's
That's over priced given they are quite a while out of production.

I'm not TIG shopping i'm happy with my new/old messer/ewm. I like the cooler/cart must be a tiny pump in that.

 

[Hood]

Interesting, looks like it is just a tank and the coolant goes into the welder which has a pump, is that correct? If so where does the gas go?

 

[Richard.]

Well there is a 3 pin plug hanging off it so it must have a pump in there. The welder doesn't have a pump in it.
Looks a tall cooler. And almost as wide as the welder. I'd say it could be a decent pump in there.

 

[Richard.]

Interesting, looks like it is just a tank and the coolant goes into the welder which has a pump, is that correct? If so where does the gas go?

Gas is far left on the welder next to torch dins.

 

[Hood]

Ah Ok I see it now, looked like the gas hose was going to the tank but when I looked closer at the pic I see it goes to the torch.

 

[Hood]

Just back from the workshop as I was searching for something, never found it but did find a small motor I forgot all about. It originally had a vane style vacuum pump fitted to it but that eventually got thrown out as any liquid that got inside meant the vanes stuck and the vacuum was lost which was no use as it was used on my mill with coolant, no great loss as I only paid 99p for it
Anyway I saw the motor and thought it would be great as a spare for the Procon with a wee bit of adaption, sadly the label shows it not to be quite as suitable

 

[Richard.]

Just back from the workshop as I was searching for something, never found it but did find a small motor I forgot all about. It originally had a vane style vacuum pump fitted to it but that eventually got thrown out as any liquid that got inside meant the vanes stuck and the vacuum was lost which was no use as it was used on my mill with coolant, no great loss as I only paid 99p for it
Anyway I saw the motor and thought it would be great as a spare for the Procon with a wee bit of adaption, sadly the label shows it not to be quite as suitable
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I wouldn't worry too much. You'll never need a spare motor. They don't go under much pressure turning those pumps over.
The pumps are gonna wear out before the motor particularly if you have a moment of madness and switch it on without your torch connected. That will see it hit an early grave lol.

 

[Hood]

I wouldn't worry too much. You'll never need a spare motor. They don't go under much pressure turning those pumps over.
The pumps are gonna wear out before the motor particularly if you have a moment of madness and switch it on without your torch connected. That will see it hit an early grave lol.

Would the pump be destroyed by doing that? I thought it would just bypass, man I better be careful then

Got a few mins to try out the WP20 torch, took really bad with it being so small, have never used anything other than a WP26.
Just had time for a couple of short runs, outside corner and then flipped and did the inside, my hand slipped on the inside weld as can be seen by the narrow bit. Will take a few welds though to get into the way of such a small torch I think.

Also discovered that the buttons on my WP26 torch for up/down of current are wired the wrong way, I had mentioned before that when I got it I thought the right should increase and left decrease but it was the opposite. Well I put the switch on the WP20 and it works the way I expected, looked inside the WP26 torch and the green and brown wires were round the wrong way.

 

[Richard.]

Would the pump be destroyed by doing that? I thought it would just bypass, man I better be careful then

Got a few mins to try out the WP20 torch, took really bad with it being so small, have never used anything other than a WP26.
Just had time for a couple of short runs, outside corner and then flipped and did the inside, my hand slipped on the inside weld as can be seen by the narrow bit. Will take a few welds though to get into the way of such a small torch I think.

Also discovered that the buttons on my WP26 torch for up/down of current are wired the wrong way, I had mentioned before that when I got it I thought the right should increase and left decrease but it was the opposite. Well I put the switch on the WP20 and it works the way I expected, looked inside the WP26 torch and the green and brown wires were round the wrong way.

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There is a bypass on the pump in the event of a blockage. but I've heard horror stories of a blockage killing them.
Glad your getting to try the wp20 out. Was that the Chinese pump you used with it.
Wp26 are awful in comparason.
I'm getting a new wp20 torch on order tomorrow too.

 

[Hood]

There is a bypass on the pump in the event of a blockage. but I've heard horror stories of a blockage killing them.

Will have to try and remember then, don't want that happening.

Glad your getting to try the wp20 out. Was that the Chinese pump you used with it.
Wp26 are awful in comparason.

Yes was using the Chinese pump, quite a bit of vibration in the torch, well probably not a lot really but it was noticeable. At this stage I actually prefer the 26 but I reckon after a couple of proper welds I will be of the same opinion as you, it is just I am not used to it.

I'm getting a new wp20 torch on order tomorrow too.

Another Speedway or are you fancying something else?

 

[Omniata]

There is a bypass on the pump in the event of a blockage. but I've heard horror stories of a blockage killing them.
Glad your getting to try the wp20 out. Was that the Chinese pump you used with it.
Wp26 are awful in comparason.
I'm getting a new wp20 torch on order tomorrow too.

You could always connect a "loop" between hot and cold when you disconnect the torch, if you make a habit of it, it'll always be there as a failsafe...

 

[Richard.]

Will have to try and remember then, don't want that happening.




Yes was using the Chinese pump, quite a bit of vibration in the torch, well probably not a lot really but it was noticeable. At this stage I actually prefer the 26 but I reckon after a couple of proper welds I will be of the same opinion as you, it is just I am not used to it.


Another Speedway or are you fancying something else?

Weldtec ihead balljoint.
I hate flexy neck torches
I don't get on with flex loc type things either but I do potentially see the the advantage of been able change the neck angles and lock it firmly in place. So I think that's gonna tick a few boxes for me.

 

[Richard.]

You'll get no vibration from the procon. You'll feel the water circulating through the lines but hardly noticeable at all

 

[Richard.]

You could always connect a "loop" between hot and cold when you disconnect the torch, if you make a habit of it, it'll always be there as a failsafe...

That's a better idea if you are taking the torch off.
Just eliminates the risk. Nice one.

 

[Hood]

You could always connect a "loop" between hot and cold when you disconnect the torch, if you make a habit of it, it'll always be there as a failsafe...

I don't think it will be disconnected much to be honest, once I get into the way of the small torch I think it will be the one that gets used all the time, bloody better be with the money this cooler is costing me

 

[Hood]

You'll get no vibration from the procon. You'll feel the water circulating through the lines but hardly noticeable at all

It probably wasn't that but, likely just I am not used to water in the torch.