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Richard.
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Yeah it is and Skotl/Pdg know it is. Having a laugh that's all.
NickyEng
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I see Rich lol....
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To send 10kgs from ireland to italy is €28-€32 on the link i posted
whats the problem
whats the problem
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Mr Westlake has some other......interesting......videos posted on the 'Tube. 
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No doubt about that, In the time I have been on the forum the amount of negative feelings about these untested, non-UK backed piles of junk has been made crystal clear. Like you said Rich where can you get a tig inverter for 180 euros? the alarm bells would be ringing with proper research once you see the proper cost of these things.
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I am a strong believer that we have to take responsibility for ourselves, something that is weakening with the new 'the buyer is always right and protected' belief of many shoppers.
Ebay has opened up a whole new market of products to us and many at prices well below the norm, most of these low priced items come from abroad and many of those are sold from what on the surface may look like a global professional company but in reality is no more than the ease and power of internet web site designs.
I am more than happy to buy from China, Italy, Outer Mongolia or any other seller, what I do first though is ask myself what will happen if the item is or develops a fault and if I have any doubt returning the item will result in high postage or little or no help from the seller then I buy locally or within the UK at least.
This basically means I buy very few items costing more than £10 from the sellers mentioned, I did consider buying a £130 plasma but I had already accepted I would not be sending it back, I would take the gamble and would blame only myself if it ended up a lump of scrap.
I have had some brilliant bargains from China, I have had some rubbish too, what I have never had is any reason to complain, you pay your money and take your chances.
Ebay has opened up a whole new market of products to us and many at prices well below the norm, most of these low priced items come from abroad and many of those are sold from what on the surface may look like a global professional company but in reality is no more than the ease and power of internet web site designs.
I am more than happy to buy from China, Italy, Outer Mongolia or any other seller, what I do first though is ask myself what will happen if the item is or develops a fault and if I have any doubt returning the item will result in high postage or little or no help from the seller then I buy locally or within the UK at least.
This basically means I buy very few items costing more than £10 from the sellers mentioned, I did consider buying a £130 plasma but I had already accepted I would not be sending it back, I would take the gamble and would blame only myself if it ended up a lump of scrap.
I have had some brilliant bargains from China, I have had some rubbish too, what I have never had is any reason to complain, you pay your money and take your chances.
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^^like Steve said - there are also a number of users who have had machines from there that have worked ok, some for a number of years. Same as the cut 50 plasma etc.
What you are not going to get is the level of customer service you would enjoy from the likes of rtech but then you are paying considerably less money.
What you are not going to get is the level of customer service you would enjoy from the likes of rtech but then you are paying considerably less money.
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Considered locking this post to prevent another 20 page 'brand/country' bashing event that happens on a regular basis, we have all read pages and pages of it I am sure, but I don't want to over moderate so will see how it goes for now, constructive comments still welcomed so fill yer boots 
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Yep, the component security and location on some of the circuit boards is horrendous.
As I have said before most of the boards are built in Malaysia and the Far East, you need to stipulate to the board manufacturer exactly how you want the board layed out In terms of component location etc... Otherwise you get a disorganised mess. Only machine builders of quality machines with strict quality control would give this stipulation - not a supplier selling a machine for buttons where there isn't a even a reserve price on ebay. It could be sold for just a few pounds.....
As I have said before most of the boards are built in Malaysia and the Far East, you need to stipulate to the board manufacturer exactly how you want the board layed out In terms of component location etc... Otherwise you get a disorganised mess. Only machine builders of quality machines with strict quality control would give this stipulation - not a supplier selling a machine for buttons where there isn't a even a reserve price on ebay. It could be sold for just a few pounds.....
Considered locking this post to prevent another 20 page 'brand/country' bashing event that happens on a regular basis, we have all read pages and pages of it I am sure, but I don't want to over moderate so will see how it goes for now, constructive comments still welcomed so fill yer boots
It appears to be an honest description of someone's experience of buying one of these sets, having problems and attempting to get satisfaction, so I'd say it's valid.
It's not to say that every MigTig buyer will find the same thing or that their set will fail quickly.
My son had his hotpoint tumbledrier blow up. Turns out it's a known fault so happily requests the replacement parts as there was a 5 year parts guarantee .......sorry you have to have them fitted. WHY WHEN MY MATES DAD IS AN ENGINEER? Sorry sir we will not send you the parts only. It's £190 for an engineer to call.
Under EU rules the damn thing should last longer than 19 months. But they won't budge so much for EU rules. No good if they are not enforceable.
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There is no issue with the OP's post or opinions, we welcome accurate reviews of equipment, my reference was to what often follows in these sorts of threads and it often turns into the same old thing, pages and pages of import vs uk etc etc, the arguments get heated and continue forever with no real outcome.
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Don't you just know it Steve. Give it another page or two and you know what famously talked about brand will be chucked into the blender. After that it's every solder for himself.
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Have just had a similar but not identical event myself, the drum on my Daughters Servis dryer collapsed, on inspection the rear 10mm dia shaft had eaten through the bronze support housing and worn away on the chassis until it snapped.
There are repair kits on ebay consisting of the shaft (it bolts on the back of the drum) and the new bearing bush.
Stripped it down to find the shaft on hers was on a circular plate riveted to the drum, contacted Servis to be told ours was the 'new' model 7 and repair kits were not available but they would be delighted to sell me a new drum for £80.
Decided to buy the kit off ebay and do something or other to make it fit, ground off the heads of the six rivets and lifted the plate away and lo and behold there are the three holes under the plate for the cheap ebay repair kit to bolt to, 10mins later the machine was working as good as new for the cost of £7
Servis obviously did not like Mr DIY repairing their own machine so decided to introduce another 'stopper' method that would hopefully baffle them and stop the easy repair.
The only difference between model 6 and model 7 is their attempt to make money.
Not by me. Lol I am sorry I posted of topic. But when posted I was actually highlighting the dodgy free parts offers that seem too good to be true. It's nice to know when the warranty and offer on parts are honoured in full.
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Na. He wants his €200 back for that.
