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You mean like thisI am wondering if there some way I might be able to hold this monster log up high enough to roll my bandsaw alongside it. I mean, it is on wheels.
Somebody stop me.
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You mean like this
Haha, yeah only going the hard way. I'll have a watch of that, I'm a subscriber of his too!
Let's hope not then eh...
Found my stash of <unknown> smelly wax stuff (from a dead mans shed clearance).
Seals the ends with a nice soft cap that doesn't come off and is bandsaw friendly.
I peeled one of the walnut logs just to see what's inside....
It is kinda spooky.
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I went and took this photo to explain:
This is a length of english walnut that i have out the back -
Scale, i guess, from the paint tins and the stack of three, standard size, plastic cement sacks in the bottom left. I guess the length is 7 and a bit feet long.
The white bit is the sap wood, and the heart develops as it gets older.
Its not like the sapwood is useless, but, without a significant amount of heart, you have lost the majority of the interest.
Subtext -
Dont spend too much time / effort on what youve currently laid your hands on. If you can get holed of the 4 foot wide section you initially mentioned, great, but a few younger timbers are not really much of a prize.
As an indication, i think the 2" thick length in the photo cost me £45. Ebay rate would, im sure, be higher, but, again, i dont know who actually buys this stuff at ebay pricing.
This is a length of english walnut that i have out the back -
Scale, i guess, from the paint tins and the stack of three, standard size, plastic cement sacks in the bottom left. I guess the length is 7 and a bit feet long.
The white bit is the sap wood, and the heart develops as it gets older.
Its not like the sapwood is useless, but, without a significant amount of heart, you have lost the majority of the interest.
Subtext -
Dont spend too much time / effort on what youve currently laid your hands on. If you can get holed of the 4 foot wide section you initially mentioned, great, but a few younger timbers are not really much of a prize.
As an indication, i think the 2" thick length in the photo cost me £45. Ebay rate would, im sure, be higher, but, again, i dont know who actually buys this stuff at ebay pricing.
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@Screwdriver I hope that isn't 'er indoors's best pan....
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I think the best bit is behind a bricked off part that he couldn't get to. Some other company is bringing a digger to drag out the stump and my chap is going to see if he can grab it for me.
I can't complain about the quality of the piece, it was free after all and it didn't cost too much time/effort either. Plus I have the warm fuzzy feeling that I have "saved" a decent bit of wood from an ignominious end.
I can't complain about the quality of the piece, it was free after all and it didn't cost too much time/effort either. Plus I have the warm fuzzy feeling that I have "saved" a decent bit of wood from an ignominious end.
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Yeah, you already said that.
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Have you seen the clamp tothe chainsaw clamp that is run alond a squared up plank screwed to the log as a plank cutter . drilling the bar in one or two places & bolting right through would make it safer and more stable .
There is an interesting tube video showing it's use safely .
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Yes of course. I hesitate to go chainsaw route because kerf waste would be a substantial proportion of whatever decent heartwood might be available (possibly up to 250% 
). Alaskan mill is too much of a faff unless as I say, the same chap is happy to lend me his.
So I am looking at ways to maximise whatever there might be here and a quick freehand hack with a chainsaw followed by a more controlled cut with a bandsaw might be the way to go.
). Alaskan mill is too much of a faff unless as I say, the same chap is happy to lend me his.So I am looking at ways to maximise whatever there might be here and a quick freehand hack with a chainsaw followed by a more controlled cut with a bandsaw might be the way to go.
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Waste of time for a piece of wood about the diameter of a curtain rail when processed …
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Carmargue walnut I seem to recall, was a sought after gunstock material?
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Waste of time for a piece of wood about the diameter of a curtain rail when processed …
Ok. Let's examine the logic behind that helpful comment.
Current status is that before I could establish whether or not this was a 200 year old black burr walnut, I had committed to acquiring it. Yes the heartwood is disappointing. It is what it is.
It is now sitting in my garage area and I have three options.
1. Leave it where it is
2. Chop it up for firewood
3. Slice it up for any useable stock
1. is tempting but I have already done that with some plum cherry. Clearly 2 and 3 are so similar in both process and potential outcome, I might just as well aim at 3. I have to chop it up anyway so when I inevitably chop it up, I might just as well see if I can develop a diy process for milling lumber. If it doesn't work, I will have some nicely sawn firewood. Currently I do not see any possibility of getting through next winter without greedy utilities companies bankrupting me into destitution. I might need a decent stack of firewood anyway.
On the other hand, if it does work, I will end up with a lovely curtain rail.
I am more interested in learning how to do it, doing it and learning from doing it. Next time a tree pops up I will know what to look for and even if I ruin this piece but still have all of my appendages, I might expect to do better next time. For those of you who enjoy rude health and easy money, I can see why you might want to poo poo this project. Currently, time is all I have so I choose to do with it as I please until either the NHS sorts me out or I turn into a mindless zombie.
Meanwhile I do have to explore any potential opportunity to conjure up money, turns out it doesn't grow on trees after all.
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There can be good money in timber if you have the space to store, process and retail it, good sticks will eventually find a buyer. Typically an oak butt with no shake that's suitable for milling at around 4` diameter /10` long will make around £3-400, anything else can go in a log pile, average price of logs around here is nudging £100 a cubic mete delivered, bagged hardwood chip sells if there is no leaf in it, wood for turning sells in small quantities, bagged hardwood sawdust sells for meat smoking.
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Amazing how you always have to pull the health card when someone doesn’t agree with you. Glad you have the time to mess about with such things. Most of us unfortunately have to work for a living. No such thing as easy money and nobody subsidises my existenceOk. Let's examine the logic behind that helpful comment.
Current status is that before I could establish whether or not this was a 200 year old black burr walnut, I had committed to acquiring it. Yes the heartwood is disappointing. It is what it is.
It is now sitting in my garage area and I have three options.
1. Leave it where it is
2. Chop it up for firewood
3. Slice it up for any useable stock
1. is tempting but I have already done that with some plum cherry. Clearly 2 and 3 are so similar in both process and potential outcome, I might just as well aim at 3. I have to chop it up anyway so when I inevitably chop it up, I might just as well see if I can develop a diy process for milling lumber. If it doesn't work, I will have some nicely sawn firewood. Currently I do not see any possibility of getting through next winter without greedy utilities companies bankrupting me into destitution. I might need a decent stack of firewood anyway.
On the other hand, if it does work, I will end up with a lovely curtain rail.
I am more interested in learning how to do it, doing it and learning from doing it. Next time a tree pops up I will know what to look for and even if I ruin this piece but still have all of my appendages, I might expect to do better next time. For those of you who enjoy rude health and easy money, I can see why you might want to poo poo this project. Currently, time is all I have so I choose to do with it as I please until either the NHS sorts me out or I turn into a mindless zombie.
Meanwhile I do have to explore any potential opportunity to conjure up money, turns out it doesn't grow on trees after all.
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Can we at least keep it civil, lads? 
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I sympathise with you Screwdriver being disabled or with a chronic illness means you usually have plenty of time to try and work out what is best for you , not only money wise but also how to do it . What may suit a fit energetic person with a pocket full of readies is far removed what you & I have to end up doing to get a reasonable safe result if we do it ourselves within a pocket money budget . Still it keeps us out of trouble & the brain engaged .
For a four foot length of 100 mm seasoned apple log I screwed a 2x3" planed baton of pine along it's length whilst it was clamped to my welding table so as to have a sound reference edge to put up to the fence on the band saw .
Put on a ripping blade and slipped it through , had Alison on the rear side to be catcher & used some precut thin wedges to keep the cut open . .did the baton exercise with the first flat on the bench and put it through again . then ran the remaining cuts through free hand , it came out pretty clean straight & square .
I can get a 6 inch log through the throat of the bandsaw but have to put roller top stands securely in place front and aft to support the weight of the log.
For a four foot length of 100 mm seasoned apple log I screwed a 2x3" planed baton of pine along it's length whilst it was clamped to my welding table so as to have a sound reference edge to put up to the fence on the band saw .
Put on a ripping blade and slipped it through , had Alison on the rear side to be catcher & used some precut thin wedges to keep the cut open . .did the baton exercise with the first flat on the bench and put it through again . then ran the remaining cuts through free hand , it came out pretty clean straight & square .
I can get a 6 inch log through the throat of the bandsaw but have to put roller top stands securely in place front and aft to support the weight of the log.
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I am not looking for agreement or disagreement, I am doing the best with what I have. I am merely explaining why the incessant, not worth the bother, firewood does not contribute in any way to the information in this thread where I am about to chop it up anyway.
I would love to be able to find gainful employment so that I didn't have to run around and try to magic up money from thin air. I refer to the state of my health since that is why I do what I do. As stated, I am chopping this one way or another, either for firewood or for usable timber.
If people can't understand the simple logic in that simple premise after I have patiently explained it, then I respectfully suggest this thread will be of no interest to them and their comments of no interest to me.
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This is beginning to look like a much more attractive option. I need to get out there and measure up to see if the horizontal bandsaw (which has a suitable resaw blade) will work or if I have to mess about with the vertical bandsaw (which doesn't).
