Winch cabling safety

[500e]

Stealing winches is for beginners there are some photos of a small transport firms Merc Lwb hi top Sprinters less engines & gearbox 2 gone over night

 

[rcx132]

I've done very little winching so this is a genuine question... if hydraulic winches are a viable option, how come all the Ultra4 racers, which is a serious off road race class, all use electric winches as far as I can see?

 

[winchman]

I've done very little winching so this is a genuine question... if hydraulic winches are a viable option, how come all the Ultra4 racers, which is a serious off road race class, all use electric winches as far as I can see?

Electric are faster, lighter and cheaper. I have yet to see a 12 or 24volt winch rated for continuous use.
Hydraulic are slow, heavy, more complex, bigger, and also need a tank, cooler, hoses, control valves, motor pump etc. But more robust, Fire engines, recovery vehicles,tree surgeons National grid, fishing trawlers etc all use hydraulics as they can run for 24 hours away and have a much higher reliability rate
Basically its totally different applications.

 

[Mee]

I've done very little winching so this is a genuine question... if hydraulic winches are a viable option, how come all the Ultra4 racers, which is a serious off road race class, all use electric winches as far as I can see?

Also for a beginner, they are quicker and easier to install by a complete amateur and as Winchman has already pointed out they cannot be continually used, the number of motor replacements by inexperienced users is staggeringly high.

 

[winchman]

I used to love it when they turned up for a new motor and once I wired it correctly it ran, two wires and three terminals just throws them

 

[123hotchef]

I agree wholeheartedly! I don't have a powered winch anymore, as you said, more often needed on the back, so I now have a Tirfor I chuck in the back and if I don't have that, a high-lift jack and chain!

if u have dynema u can run it under the vechile through a pipe and winch backwards too

 

[indy4x]

For most of the off road community they see having a winch as their top priority whereas I would prefer to spend the money on stuff so you as less likely to get stuck in the first place

I now have a winch and the only time it has been used is to recover other peeps, That's not to say there haven't been times in the past when I could have done with one

 

[Robotstar5]

If you want a serious competition winch, look at the twin motor models - link

 

[Mee]

if u have dynema u can run it under the vechile through a pipe and winch backwards too

You can do it with steel cable also, and is something I did many years ago, in addition the military vehicles with 4 way winches have them in the middle of the chassis and they can be turned through 90 degrees for front, rear, and both sides winching.

I used to love it when they turned up for a new motor and once I wired it correctly it ran, two wires and three terminals just throws them

It made me smile a few times also.

For most of the off road community they see having a winch as their top priority whereas I would prefer to spend the money on stuff so you as less likely to get stuck in the first place

Very true, a decent set of tyres often did wonders.

If you want a serious competition winch, look at the twin motor models

Serious winching requires hydraulic as they don't overheat.

 

[Shox Dr]

If you want a serious competition winch, look at the twin motor models - link

6.8HP each how many batteries do you need for that

 

[Mee]

6.8HP each how many batteries do you need for that

Rather large ones and the alternator and split charging system to recharge them quickly.

 

[indy4x]

One of the Ultra 4 UK competitors whose name evades me went to America for 1 of their events and on 1 event they couldn't believe how fast he was winching, left them all for dust. Will have to look up the article cos they logged his winching speed and pretty sure it was into double figures

Pretty sure that was a double motor jobbie as well

 

[Luke]

If you want a serious competition winch, look at the twin motor models - link

If you really want a serious competition winch, look here.

 

[indy4x]

One of the Ultra 4 UK competitors whose name evades me went to America for 1 of their events and on 1 event they couldn't believe how fast he was winching, left them all for dust. Will have to look up the article cos they logged his winching speed and pretty sure it was into double figures

Pretty sure that was a double motor jobbie as well

It was Jim Marsden, now to find out how fast he was winching