To me, the defender would be an ideal vehicle. If you could get the weight distribution right then there is scope for a variety of battery packages to suit different ranges. I guess they will be limited by overall weight though. BUT.. prices need to be a lot lower to be a mainstream thing.
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So, the UK is responsible for 1% of global pollution.
"The United Kingdom population is equivalent to 0.87% of the total world population."
Pollution per person - we are above the average - only slightly - but we are.
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In the year of my birth 1967 - there was 3.47 billion people on this planet
This year there is 8 billion
And by the time I die it will 10 billion.
In my short lifetime the worlds population has tripled - this is where the problem lies
Too many people consuming too much!
I honestly believe this is route cause of all the earths resource problems - too many successful breeding medium sized mammals = US
(Try getting your MP to sell that concept as a vote winner!)
"The United Kingdom population is equivalent to 0.87% of the total world population."
Pollution per person - we are above the average - only slightly - but we are.
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In the year of my birth 1967 - there was 3.47 billion people on this planet
This year there is 8 billion
And by the time I die it will 10 billion.
In my short lifetime the worlds population has tripled - this is where the problem lies
Too many people consuming too much!
I honestly believe this is route cause of all the earths resource problems - too many successful breeding medium sized mammals = US
(Try getting your MP to sell that concept as a vote winner!)
When you add-in that the presenter got given a VW thing (looked a bit like a shrunken Transporter, people carrier thingummy) for his programme & journey (so it cost him nothing - a freebie - something you'd expect to make someone more positive) - its not great.
Apart from the time spent looking for a Charge point (he tried more than one that didn't work at all, and others were clearly driving him nuts with complicated online forms to fill in and Apps to download - at least one of which didnt work) - he spent a goodly while sat in car parks & Services while his loaner car charged up. He admitted to "Range Anxiety" & being riveted to the "charge remaining" readout screen.
The guy who was responsible for the Nissan Leaf (now works for Aston Martin) was interviewed, and he was among those saying the Charging Network (& the power network being inadequate) was only 10% of requirement, and no sign of any initiatives & investment to address the problem.
The programme walked very softly & did its best not to be inflammatory, contentious or go against the govt-led trend - but even then the conclusion was that the UK is not ready for the EV.
Someone asked me once that, if advanced aliens with inter-stellar travel capability did find Earth - what would they think of finding "intelligent life" (us).
My response was to say that I doubt we'd be viewed as intelligent life at all.... more probably we'd be viewed as some sort of infestation, like a plague of locusts or rabbit's. Breed uncontrollably, and consume everything till there is nothing left.
(In our collective arrogance, & with so many sci-fi series putting Humans out there as equals among myriad alien races - the narrative tends to be that we'd be respected etc).
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I don't know mate - I have given this allot of thought in the last few years.
It is nature to want your gene pool to survive. Humans are not greedy "as such" they just want there spawn to live a better life - generation on generation.
But what I can tell you is - a few EV/PHEV cars is not gonna touch the sides with the problem that is coming.
The car is only a 100yrs old - plastic is only 50yrs.
Tech is funny thing - you can't reverse it!
Out of control population growth is an exponential problem. That no one can address/resolve I think?
It may become a self solving problem... But the world won't be a nice place when that happens...
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1885/86 is generally accepted to be the advent of the first internal combustion engined car, although steam power goes back a lot further - 1769 for the first practical example. Plastics (except cellulose based ones) were in meaningful production in 1950 and a 'war secret' in the 1940's
How time flies eh?
How time flies eh?
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I not sure when mass ownership of cars came - when most people had a car? 60's?
Edit: Google...
When did car ownership become common in the UK?
Fast forward to the mid-1930s and more than two million motorised vehicles were on Britain's roads. This was the start of Britain's motor revolution, with car ownership growing from 19 million in 1971 to over 31 million in 2007.
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late 30's I'd say, looking at some of the old newsreel film from that era - as usual though, that'd be skewed to the townies!
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In the 30s they were still the perk of the wealthy as transport, though there were more small business type motors. Most folk didnt have the spending power, and toiled to pay their rent. Many still lived in company houses, shopped in company shops, drunk in company pub…..miners and mill workers been prime examples.
Or just ignore us altogether - seeing Earth as some sort of ant-hillThe fact that the aliens have invented inter-stellar travel would mean they most certainly are more intelligent than us and will probably scour us from the face of the planet
I saw something the other day, where someone was giving a lecture on global pollution, the environment and "saving the planet".
The gist of it, is that it's utterly irrelevant what we in the "first world" here in the UK (with our 1% of the global emissions) - or even Europe.
Why? He went on to use numbers that I don't recall, but essentially he said that the massive places like Eastern Europe & China - have massive populations that are focused on only one thing.... survival & betterment of themselves and their children. When the vast majority don't even have a toilet, let alone indoor plumbing etc etc - these millions of people have "saving the planet" and reducing emissions so far off their radar it's not even a blip on the periphery.
The gist of it, is that it's utterly irrelevant what we in the "first world" here in the UK (with our 1% of the global emissions) - or even Europe.
Why? He went on to use numbers that I don't recall, but essentially he said that the massive places like Eastern Europe & China - have massive populations that are focused on only one thing.... survival & betterment of themselves and their children. When the vast majority don't even have a toilet, let alone indoor plumbing etc etc - these millions of people have "saving the planet" and reducing emissions so far off their radar it's not even a blip on the periphery.
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Need to be very careful...folk don't like it when you point out the large elephant in the room!
Resource "per head of population" running out...the resources are the same...just the number we divide them buy is increasing at a staggering rate.
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What I resent is we are being asked/told/taxed into a position where we as a country will 'do our bit' (notwithstanding the deluded 'just stop/ insulate/ get back to the caves you f***s type protesters, I now carry a big bag of cable ties so that should the need and/or opportunity arise, I'd attach them to a suitable piece of street furniture) by moving over to BEV's, thereby forcing the developing economies to up their emmisions to meet the need for things like battery material mining, production, shipping etc. No doubt they'll also be producing the transformers and cable required for us to upgrade our infrastructure... How about looking at not supercharging an unsustainable economy, we all know that the income won't go to those in China, India & Africa that need it. It's about time we looked at 'souring the milk' we're giving to those that only benefit from, not contribute to lowering worldwide emissions - whether things are as bad as portrayed - who knows? lowering emissions can only be a positive though, whether they need to be as low as the lobbyists say is open to reasoned un-sponsored debate (one that I think we'll never see given the bias, cherry picking and partially hidden agendas from all with a dog in the fight.) A very good friend of mine is a Geologist, used to measuring things in millions or billions of years, he (and most of his peers) are quite ambivalent on the whole climate range of cause & effect and potential course alterations to try and counteract the accepted predictive narrative.
I don't usually give the hidden agenda / conspiracy theory deep thinkers much time, there are those that say the climate 'scare' is a good moneyspinner for industry & government alike. Corporates and governments think and plan ahead far longer than individuals do - we only have our lifetime to plan for, they can look ahead many times that.
I agree with everything you say bar the last sentence,they don't look any further than the next election.
And they definitely don't think about anyone further afield than there friendship circle
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I don't mean the politicians! - I mean the real government, the 'blob', the 'workfromhomers' Have you never watched 'Yes Minister'?
My father was CS, he worked for both colours of politician, he was equally scathing and dismissive of them all, the difference from then to now is that he did his job without letting his own views get in the way.
My father was CS, he worked for both colours of politician, he was equally scathing and dismissive of them all, the difference from then to now is that he did his job without letting his own views get in the way.
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