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I would imagine they would need to take precautions if they wanted to transport a fire damaged EV on a ferry.
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S'funny. I've always thought of Ferry Crossings to be very safe (esp. so after that one that tipped over maybe 40 years back due to not closing the transport deck ramp before leaving dock - forget the name now).
The thought of being stuck on the passenger decks above a hold with many EV's in it - is a different kettle of fish altogether to my mind.
No doubt there will be responses telling me I'm being daft & all unnecessary - but that's my current thinking
The thought of being stuck on the passenger decks above a hold with many EV's in it - is a different kettle of fish altogether to my mind.
No doubt there will be responses telling me I'm being daft & all unnecessary - but that's my current thinking
Yep, that's the one.
The "Herald of Free Enterprise" in 1987
Read something a year or two ago, that's what the German fire brigade do - they might even have done it with one that wasn't even on fire, but had been damaged.
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Watched the promotional video and quite liked it....some of the highlights below:
Reasonable price (£33k)...reasonable range for that price (200 miles)...good use of recycled materials...not aggressive looking (I prefer understated cars)....reasonably quick (5.5 secs to 60)...I don't see the point of a 0-60 of 3 seconds in an every day family car!....basically the volvo xe30 is a good all rounder at least on paper. I did notice no test drives yet on utube...which was a little odd.
10 month wait though
.That fire blanket is an excellent idea for controlling EV fires ...gives the choice of either flame grilled or oven baked...nice
...maybe they should simply install the blanket around the battery when they make the cars!
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Last time I watched EV motorcycle racing, they had to put any bikes that had crashed into a sealed box, and for quite sometime before they opened as well.
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Herald of Free Enterprise, Zeebrugge. 1987. There was also the MS Estonia which sank in the Baltic in 1994. The bow door of that has just been recovered in the last couple of days.
Most of the ferries out here are open deck. Lorries carrying gas, either tankers or bottled, are transported at the back next to the stern ramp. I'm told the fire plan is basically to drop the stern ramp and push it overboard.
There's also a lot of paperwork involved if you want to transport dangerous goods, flares, explosives, shooting supplies and like.
This one made a bit of a mess and cancelled the event a few days back!
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Inferno at Kent race circuit started in battery of electric car
A huge fire that erupted at a Kent circuit started in the battery of an electric race car while it was charging, organisers have revealed.
Yes we often have to fill in a DGN. Many things are banned from the Channel Tunnel and have to go by ferry.
Some of the big container shipping companies are banning lithium batteries forcing goods to travel by road from China. We were just quoted $20,000 to ship by road from China vs $1200 by sea.
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I've seen pics of that in the US. Not the easiest thing to move around in a hurry though, with several tons of water flopping about inside.
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I suspect fire protection systems on roll on roll of enclosed type ferries may change as EVs become more common as the fire fighting is vastly different to an oil fire from petrol or diesel. You can really just lash loads of water on it either as the free surface effect of the water could roll the ferry just like the Herald of Free Enterprise.
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Call me a tin foil hat wearing hermit that loves ICE if you like but a few things bother me
Would I want to put my family in one or even have it parked close to the house if its that volatile?
The EV fires seem a lot more fierce and destructive to the vehicle and surroundings than ICE, can this stuff be recycled or is it just land fill fodder now its a big contaminated molten blob?
Presumably the fire services are having to invest in different equipment and training at more expense?
If the go to method of dunking the EV in a tank of water regardless of accident severity is it going to increase insurance cost dramatically as presumably its a write off once submerged?
I guess its progress, at least in Lincolnshire were about 10 years behind so Ill watch with interest!
Would I want to put my family in one or even have it parked close to the house if its that volatile?
The EV fires seem a lot more fierce and destructive to the vehicle and surroundings than ICE, can this stuff be recycled or is it just land fill fodder now its a big contaminated molten blob?
Presumably the fire services are having to invest in different equipment and training at more expense?
If the go to method of dunking the EV in a tank of water regardless of accident severity is it going to increase insurance cost dramatically as presumably its a write off once submerged?
I guess its progress, at least in Lincolnshire were about 10 years behind so Ill watch with interest!
Heard about the EV battery "re-cycling" centre that opened in the UK a couple of weeks ago.Call me a tin foil hat wearing hermit that loves ICE if you like but a few things bother me
Would I want to put my family in one or even have it parked close to the house if its that volatile?
The EV fires seem a lot more fierce and destructive to the vehicle and surroundings than ICE, can this stuff be recycled or is it just land fill fodder now its a big contaminated molten blob?
Presumably the fire services are having to invest in different equipment and training at more expense?
If the go to method of dunking the EV in a tank of water regardless of accident severity is it going to increase insurance cost dramatically as presumably its a write off once submerged?
I guess its progress, at least in Lincolnshire were about 10 years behind so Ill watch with interest!
Well they are not re-cycling at all, just dismantling to send abroad, China I think.
Well I think it was within the first day of opening for the first time they had a fire!
Fire hits Recyclus lithium-ion recycling plant a day after opening | MRW
Fire engines attended Libatt Recycling on 5 July after an isolated incident involving a single pallet of batteries in one of the site’s seven storage
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Worrying!
I would want a car on charge parked next to my house!
I don't like being on ferries at the best of times but having an ev just burst into flames isn't a great thought as you can't extinguish the flames.
Maybe they need special ferry's for ev vehicles only
I would want a car on charge parked next to my house!
I don't like being on ferries at the best of times but having an ev just burst into flames isn't a great thought as you can't extinguish the flames.
Maybe they need special ferry's for ev vehicles only
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I reckon the battery tech will evolve....fire breaks and compartments etc for the battery or some sort of fire protection around the battery.
I'm thinking it's probably best to do a PCP deal or lease them....once the fire stuff evolves I would imagine the first generation cars would take a big hit in value.
I'm thinking it's probably best to do a PCP deal or lease them....once the fire stuff evolves I would imagine the first generation cars would take a big hit in value.
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I’m surprised that they are allowed on the tunnel, one catching fire there would be a disaster. LPG fuelled vehicles are not able to travel, but I’ve never heard of a problem with them, maybe it’s political, they dare not refuse.
All very valid questions.Call me a tin foil hat wearing hermit that loves ICE if you like but a few things bother me
Would I want to put my family in one or even have it parked close to the house if its that volatile?
The EV fires seem a lot more fierce and destructive to the vehicle and surroundings than ICE, can this stuff be recycled or is it just land fill fodder now its a big contaminated molten blob?
Presumably the fire services are having to invest in different equipment and training at more expense?
If the go to method of dunking the EV in a tank of water regardless of accident severity is it going to increase insurance cost dramatically as presumably its a write off once submerged?
I guess its progress, at least in Lincolnshire were about 10 years behind so Ill watch with interest!
However, as these are awkward questions that don't fit the narrative or direction we are being forced down by our own so-called Public Servants - then don't expect to see honest, accurate, no-frills straight answers.
There was a car fire years ago in the Mont Blanc Tunnel (not an EV). The resulting fire and loss of life meant they invoked new rules where only 1-car at a time was allowed to be in transit at a time.
Mont Blanc is a road system.
The Chunnel is rail!
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