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I'm up for that mate.
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I like the fact it's been cast nicely. Very smooth with no obvious signs of casting defects or pits. It's got a hard wearing thick coat of paint that is good for a knock or two but then this is spoiled a little with a couple of runs on the base. No big deal but it's stuff I notice and pick at as a quality flaw as I wouldn't leave a paint run in anything I made.
I do like the fact the surfaces under contact with each other are surface ground and finished nicely. I was half expecting an abrupt movement from finishing defects or bad tolerances but it's not the case. That extended grub screw pees me off as that's just a total lack of thought and it would be so easy to knock that and shear it off causing all sorts of problems. First job is to change that with one that goes right in.
Blade hardness and tolerance is where it will get judged probably. This is where the Beverly gets its name. I'm not expecting it to compare to a Beverly but I don't want to be changing those blunt blades every 6 months either. I'll use it to within its spec and see how they hold out. Plan is to make a base for it to clamp in my vice just like the folder so I can quickly get it out the way when not in use. My vice is solid and bolted to my bench and My bench is very heavy so I can't see there been any rigidity problem there.
I do like the fact the surfaces under contact with each other are surface ground and finished nicely. I was half expecting an abrupt movement from finishing defects or bad tolerances but it's not the case. That extended grub screw pees me off as that's just a total lack of thought and it would be so easy to knock that and shear it off causing all sorts of problems. First job is to change that with one that goes right in.
Blade hardness and tolerance is where it will get judged probably. This is where the Beverly gets its name. I'm not expecting it to compare to a Beverly but I don't want to be changing those blunt blades every 6 months either. I'll use it to within its spec and see how they hold out. Plan is to make a base for it to clamp in my vice just like the folder so I can quickly get it out the way when not in use. My vice is solid and bolted to my bench and My bench is very heavy so I can't see there been any rigidity problem there.
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That looks like a very useful tool.
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Yes it certainly is if dealing with sheet metal.
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I'm impressed. Darn you Richard. I didn't need one of those yesterday!
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yin yang symbol that will give you some work getting that right
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Tell the wife it's my fault and she can give me a telling off. My number is 1234567890.
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Ok so having tested it on its max and min and made loooooaaaaads of scrap sheet it's fair to say I've found some pit falls.
The blades are quite inferior once you start putting thickness through it on its top spec all the time. I've noticed some very slight chipping to the razor sharp edges on the bottom blade. Top still seems like new. At the mo it's bearing no effect on its ability to cut clean but it's fair to say if I was doing 18swg SS day in day out with it I'd be changing the blades (at £50 a pop) at fairly regular intervals cos no doubt they will get to the point where the cut is effected. Blade adjustment is a bit of an art too. The clamp tends to push them a fraction closer so once set up with the clamp backed off you find it rubs when you tighten it up so you need to pre set them slightly too far away at both sides to get it where they just clear each other. Quite a bit of trial and error. The blade tolerances are excellent mind. Once set up the distance between the two remains exactly the same throughout the entire stroke so that's a positive. I'd say to get the best out of it and a long life out of those blades is to step down a fraction from the max recommended thickness. Yes it easily cuts 18swg and more in SS with no effort at all but the blades won't thank you for it over the time. The units solid structure itself will probably never break no matter how much pressure you apply as it's very solid so you'll have it for life but the blades are its weakness. Might do a bit of research to see if other better blades are the same size. As I've bought it to be used near and on its top limit quite often.
The blades are quite inferior once you start putting thickness through it on its top spec all the time. I've noticed some very slight chipping to the razor sharp edges on the bottom blade. Top still seems like new. At the mo it's bearing no effect on its ability to cut clean but it's fair to say if I was doing 18swg SS day in day out with it I'd be changing the blades (at £50 a pop) at fairly regular intervals cos no doubt they will get to the point where the cut is effected. Blade adjustment is a bit of an art too. The clamp tends to push them a fraction closer so once set up with the clamp backed off you find it rubs when you tighten it up so you need to pre set them slightly too far away at both sides to get it where they just clear each other. Quite a bit of trial and error. The blade tolerances are excellent mind. Once set up the distance between the two remains exactly the same throughout the entire stroke so that's a positive. I'd say to get the best out of it and a long life out of those blades is to step down a fraction from the max recommended thickness. Yes it easily cuts 18swg and more in SS with no effort at all but the blades won't thank you for it over the time. The units solid structure itself will probably never break no matter how much pressure you apply as it's very solid so you'll have it for life but the blades are its weakness. Might do a bit of research to see if other better blades are the same size. As I've bought it to be used near and on its top limit quite often.
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I have not actually seen these blades Richard, Is it possible to re-dress the blades with a light find if they become chipped?
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I don't think you can Gordon unless you have a surface grinder.
They are so tightly toleranced to match each other I would imagine going anywhere near them with a grinder would just deem them useless.
It would be very interesting to know if Beverly blades fitted it. It would then be a cheap way of obtaining an (almost) B1 shear. But I would guess they probably slightly differ to stop people doing that.
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good report, i hvent had a chance to make a vice mount yet ( im doing the exact same as you, no way im drilling holes in my SS bench! overall quality seems 'good' not superd mind, good. paintwork is ok, and the casting is ok too.
i suppose though these are all just cosmetic, and how it cuts is the most important thing by far. im exited to see how it goes. any pics of the SS richard?
is the piece that goes under the sheer distorted beyond use?
i suppose though these are all just cosmetic, and how it cuts is the most important thing by far. im exited to see how it goes. any pics of the SS richard?
is the piece that goes under the sheer distorted beyond use?
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Thin strips cut off distort a fair bit bit but if your cutting a bit of width off the sheet it hardly distorts at all and what little bit it does is easy pulled back by hand.
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Ok. Now things have changed.
My original question of "Baileigh tools, any good? Has been well and truly answered.
There tools might be but as a company the answer is a BIG FAT NOPE!!!!!
So I call them 2 days ago for a price on a set of blades.
I get this email today. "Hi we don't have them in stock but we can get them to you.
£45 for the blades and 2 options on shipping.
1) £80 inc vat to have them air freight within 2 weeks
2) £18 inc vat to have them container shipped which takes 120 days. ".
Now am I been totally unreasonable here but I think that's taking the pee. I've been having a row with them now and basically said imho they are not supporting there product with any reasonable way to obtain spare/wear parts. It's not like I'm asking for a new base plate. The blades are wearing parts and as such should be available should they not. I've now said they can have the bleeding thing back if they can't support it as it's out of order to expect someone to pay 3x the value of the blades just to get them here with in 2 weeks. £135 all in. WTF!!!! You'll pay less for a set of Beverly blades. Any way. They have also said I won't be returning it they won't accept it back as it's not a good reason to return it. Soooooo my question is answered and you guys make your own mind up. Baileigh.... the tools seem good but the back up is horrendous.
My original question of "Baileigh tools, any good? Has been well and truly answered.
There tools might be but as a company the answer is a BIG FAT NOPE!!!!!
So I call them 2 days ago for a price on a set of blades.
I get this email today. "Hi we don't have them in stock but we can get them to you.
£45 for the blades and 2 options on shipping.
1) £80 inc vat to have them air freight within 2 weeks
2) £18 inc vat to have them container shipped which takes 120 days. ".
Now am I been totally unreasonable here but I think that's taking the pee. I've been having a row with them now and basically said imho they are not supporting there product with any reasonable way to obtain spare/wear parts. It's not like I'm asking for a new base plate. The blades are wearing parts and as such should be available should they not. I've now said they can have the bleeding thing back if they can't support it as it's out of order to expect someone to pay 3x the value of the blades just to get them here with in 2 weeks. £135 all in. WTF!!!! You'll pay less for a set of Beverly blades. Any way. They have also said I won't be returning it they won't accept it back as it's not a good reason to return it. Soooooo my question is answered and you guys make your own mind up. Baileigh.... the tools seem good but the back up is horrendous.
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No mate but tbh I ain't feeling like I want to bother with them at the mo.
Everyone else who produces this shear has blades on the shelf ready to be sold. Baileigh obviously want to make a few quid on shipping costs. The thing that really boils my blood is it's not my problem that they don't have them in stock. I went to baileigh uk for a uk sale, uk support, uk spares yet it appears they expect me to pay for international shipping because they don't have stock. What on earth would they do if a fab shop depending on them bought 2 or 3 of the bloody things.
Granted my blades are still like new and would be ok for a good while but that's not the point. I want a spare set on the shelf and baileigh cannot provide that under reasonable time/cost so personally I'd avoid them for tools.
