Brand new worlds largest floating crane failure.

[scottmk1]

The trouble is if it was engineered to Victorian standards, it would probably capsize the ship and be too expensive in the first place.

 

[scottmk1]

Are Liebherr Chinese?

No, but the vessel was built in China.

 

[MetalMonkey]

Now I do not believe they wanted to do that.

 

[brightspark]

Now I do not believe they wanted to do that.

said harry enfield

 

[mike os]

The Joy's of building in the far east with the lowest bidder....

 

[fizzy]

The Joy's of building in the far east with the lowest bidder....

I suspect design was just as much a problem - and it was a Liebherr!

 

[brightspark]

would have thought they would x ray the the hook and do stress break tests

 

[Robbie260]

Are Liebherr Chinese?

Built under licence in china how these big companys mainly function these days in relation too the shipping industry. Crane will have been designed by liebherr and the design will then have been bought and subsequently built by a different company in china, they will change stuff in the design too make it thier own so one you have too go to them for parts and too it reduces the royalties they will have too pay too liebherr for using thier design.

On a side note liebherr dont know how too make cranes for maritime use. Have worked on a few container ships with them installed and they are a major head ache all hydarulic parts bar the pump and its motor are on the out side of the crane, usually made of cast iron or alluminium which just rots to a powder in a marine enviroment, and leak all the time. The cranes are so bad they stopped using them and they are only moved too get them out the way of the gantry cranes these days. Among other major issues.

 

[daleyd]

From what I read the vessel was from the Far East but it was having the crane installed and tested at Rostok...

 

[fizzy]

Built under licence in china how these big companys mainly function these days in relation too the shipping industry. Crane will have been designed by liebherr and the design will then have been bought and subsequently built by a different company in china, they will change stuff in the design too make it thier own so one you have too go to them for parts and too it reduces the royalties they will have too pay too liebherr for using thier design.

On a side note liebherr dont know how too make cranes for maritime use. Have worked on a few container ships with them installed and they are a major head ache all hydarulic parts bar the pump and its motor are on the out side of the crane, usually made of cast iron or alluminium which just rots to a powder in a marine enviroment, and leak all the time. The cranes are so bad they stopped using them and they are only moved too get them out the way of the gantry cranes these days. Among other major issues.

German see

 

[fizzy]

From what I read the vessel was from the Far East but it was having the crane installed and tested at Rostok...

https://www.offshorewind.biz/2020/05/02/orions-heavy-lift-crane-collapses-video/

Yes it happened in the German yard.
It seems the Chinese vessel was the better part of the equation

 

[Robbie260]

German see

Hands up ill admit when im wrong but that is an extremely strange way of going about things in terms of ship building these days.

 

[Kayos]

That's not gone well

My neighbour is a welder in a shipyard, hes still working because if they close the yard they dont think it will reopen

 

[daleyd]

Hands up ill admit when im wrong but that is an extremely strange way of going about things in terms of ship building these days.

Not really - Liebherr don’t make ships so that part was done by someone else and then they fitted the crane...I think that’s pretty standard for stuff like this, the recent RFA built in Korea came to Uk for fitting out

 

[anjum]

How does this even happen today? With the computer drawing programs and simulations I would have thought that every component would be scrutinised.

Computers have greatly helped progress...you can now make bigger mistakes faster and repeatedly.

 

[Robbie260]

Not really - Liebherr don’t make ships so that part was done by someone else and then they fitted the crane...I think that’s pretty standard for stuff like this, the recent RFA built in Korea came to Uk for fitting out

Rfa is a slightly different ball game, its a mod contract and they will want too fit out most of the final stuff in the uk as they will have yards that are trusted not too blab about what is actually going on the ship as there will be a lot of stuff that will be of a classified nature.

Generally in ship building these days the whole thing specialist equipment and all will be built and fitted out in one yard. Yards dont like have too source out parts too other yards as its lost profits in an industry with extremely slim profit margins, most ship yards are on the verge of bankruptcy on a daily basis these days.

 

[pressbrake1]

Perhaps the water suction was miss calculated

 

[scottmk1]

It's quite common for hulls to be built in China and fitting or commissioning of equipment like those big cranes in Europe. That crane was not made under license by another company, although Liebherr may have a factory or yard out there just like NOV and Huisman do.

 

[daleyd]

fftopic:

Rfa is a slightly different ball game, its a mod contract and they will want too fit out most of the final stuff in the uk as they will have yards that are trusted not too blab about what is actually going on the ship as there will be a lot of stuff that will be of a classified nature.

Generally in ship building these days the whole thing specialist equipment and all will be built and fitted out in one yard. Yards dont like have too source out parts too other yards as its lost profits in an industry with extremely slim profit margins, most ship yards are on the verge of bankruptcy on a daily basis these days.

I appreciate RFA is different, that was just an example off the top of my head - but I’d beg to differ that a ship yard with little or no experience in building cranes would build and install one - mind you Liebherr have plenty of experience and it didn’t do them much good

 

[fizzy]

Not really - Liebherr don’t make ships so that part was done by someone else and then they fitted the crane...I think that’s pretty standard for stuff like this, the recent RFA built in Korea came to Uk for fitting out

Yes makes perfect sense.