CE Marking / BS EN 1090

[Mid Wales welder]

Haven't seen anything on this thread lately, would be interested to hear people's experiences so far?!

 

[Welderpaul]

Funny, was thinking about this thread today.

Business as usual really, bit more paperwork and a few more procedures but once everything settles down no great problems.

 

[Mid Wales welder]

Good to hear everything is going well! We haven't really done anything else with it yet, my boss is so slow and the company that are advising us are messing him about a bit. One thing I have done is finish the WPS's...finally! Just need to do a few test pieces from these to get MPI'd and then I should get my RWC certificate. Think everything in the office is sorted, just need to tidy the workshop and get it organised. This is a bit of a challenge as the boss is a horder and very stuck in his ways!

 

[Welderpaul]

Only a year and a bit late then

 

[Mid Wales welder]

Haha indeed. Although we were told the other day that as long as we have an application in for an audit then we can do CE jobs. Not sure how that works lol

 

[craigthewelder]

We have just finished our first year surveillance audits with no problems. Our company has benefited a lot from the CE marking as we have a few excellent new customers on board who all have full order books. The past year has been quite a challenge as we are only a very small company the amount of extra paper work that is generated can be quite overwhelming at times but as the year has passed i think we have become a lot more streamlined in the way we do things. I would say 70% of the jobs we do now are CE jobs.

 

[Kent]

Interesting bit is has it achieved better safety stats yet? And will it in the future? I know it's increased administration and consumables prices substantialy

 

[Mid Wales welder]

We have just finished our first year surveillance audits with no problems. Our company has benefited a lot from the CE marking as we have a few excellent new customers on board who all have full order books. The past year has been quite a challenge as we are only a very small company the amount of extra paper work that is generated can be quite overwhelming at times but as the year has passed i think we have become a lot more streamlined in the way we do things. I would say 70% of the jobs we do now are CE jobs.

Really good to hear that you are doing well out of EN1090! I have just booked in the gap analysis to finish everything on the welding side and get my RWC cert. The problem with where I work is that the boss's are very reluctant for change and everything takes so long! We still need to sort out the whole factory and organise the steel. I find the hard part is that we don't do this type of work so it's hard to get my head into how things need to be run, (this made the WPS's hard to do as I had nothing to reference from) but I'm sure it will all click lol.

 

[nickk]

Interesting bit is has it achieved better safety stats yet? And will it in the future? I know it's increased administration and consumables prices substantialy

i haven't noticed my consumables increase in price.

 

[craigthewelder]

Really good to hear that you are doing well out of EN1090! I have just booked in the gap analysis to finish everything on the welding side and get my RWC cert. The problem with where I work is that the boss's are very reluctant for change and everything takes so long! We still need to sort out the whole factory and organise the steel. I find the hard part is that we don't do this type of work so it's hard to get my head into how things need to be run, (this made the WPS's hard to do as I had nothing to reference from) but I'm sure it will all click lol.

Yes it is quite a lot to take in at first, i now spend a lot more time in the office than i used too. One of the things that takes up a lot of my time is doing the data packs for our customer after the job is complete. Hopefully we will be moving to a digital system soon so that will speed things up. I'm booked on a RWC course in September as we now have no external coordinator for class 2 work, should be fun!

 

[Kent]

i haven't noticed my consumables increase in price.

7018 with ce are three times the same without at my two suppliers.

 

[Kent]

Exactly same boxes

 

[Mid Wales welder]

7018 with ce are three times the same without at my two suppliers.

I thought all filler wires and rods we're CE marked now anyway?

 

[Mid Wales welder]

Yes it is quite a lot to take in at first, i now spend a lot more time in the office than i used too. One of the things that takes up a lot of my time is doing the data packs for our customer after the job is complete. Hopefully we will be moving to a digital system soon so that will speed things up. I'm booked on a RWC course in September as we now have no external coordinator for class 2 work, should be fun!

I can imagine the paper work being quite overwhelming at times, luckily I'm just going to be the RWC so will be more checking paper work and writing WPS's. Can I ask where you will be taking the RWC course? Mine was through a company called CDL, good course and not to hard really, as long as you know a bit about welding at least. It is quite fun if you like that sort of thing lol!

 

[Kent]

I thought all filler wires and rods we're CE marked now anyway?

You forget stock at manufacturer, distribution and stockist
But as it's an European thing we have to consider rest of our planet might not give one for what the Germans want to happen
Anyhow I got some superb Lloyds certified rods very very cheap and bought in bulk. No ce mark means small market.
Some are never going to get the idea behind the ideas on this one

 

[Dimitri De Spiegeleer]

Only "structural" filler material requires this "CE" mark.
Aviation, railroad, offshore, petroleum, oil&gas, ... all require other markings. Off course, these won't be what your local supplier keeps in stock...

 

[Mid Wales welder]

You forget stock at manufacturer, distribution and stockist
But as it's an European thing we have to consider rest of our planet might not give one for what the Germans want to happen
Anyhow I got some superb Lloyds certified rods very very cheap and bought in bulk. No ce mark means small market.
Some are never going to get the idea behind the ideas on this one

So for the 'little guy' EN1090 works out well for them when it comes to buying consumables as you can get the non CE stuff cheaper.

 

[matt1978]

Consumables such as mig wire from the major brands has been CE marked for a good few years now, the dead line CE marking for consumables was July 2013, 1 year before it applied to the fabrication itself but companies like ESAB and Lincoln had been CE marking most of there stuff a couple of years prior

 

[Welderpaul]

Sounds like suppliers pulling your leg with the price?

Not noticed any price increase on consumables since the CE deadline. If anything a slight reduction.

 

[Hitch]

As Paul above.... we just use the same brand (Esab) wire from the same supplier all the time, rather than whoever happens to turn up on the day we need it...because of that we get a quantity discount so save a few quid a reel.