Its has a higher calculated cfm but as already stated this means very little. Thanks for your input so far... It seems that the search continues
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I’ve mentioned this before, Buying new is great in that it’s new and you’ve got a warranty, and if you’re happy spending circa £900 on a compressor then go for it.
I look to reduce costs somewhat, got both of these for £300, one needed a new motor, so it’s around £440 in total
But I’ve 6HP and 28cfm displacement and around 18cfm FAD, and 300L capacity, I’m building a housing outside as they’re quite large. The advantage of buying second hand Clarke air industrial is that parts are available, if I’d bought new I’d be in for around £1500, my needs are for a blast cabinet and a spray gun and air fed mask, don’t think even with both of those would work with an HVLP gun and mask through, for that you’d be looking at a big 3 phase thumper unless it’s just a few panels.
Personally if I was buying new I’d look at getting 2 of what @Burdekin suggested value for money wise you can’t beat it.
Edited to say that a conventional gun at around 10 CFM as opposed to around 15 CFM for an hvlp gun, this setup should respray a full car with air fed mask.
FAD is around 2/3 rds of piston displacement (scfm) for most air compressors
I look to reduce costs somewhat, got both of these for £300, one needed a new motor, so it’s around £440 in total
But I’ve 6HP and 28cfm displacement and around 18cfm FAD, and 300L capacity, I’m building a housing outside as they’re quite large. The advantage of buying second hand Clarke air industrial is that parts are available, if I’d bought new I’d be in for around £1500, my needs are for a blast cabinet and a spray gun and air fed mask, don’t think even with both of those would work with an HVLP gun and mask through, for that you’d be looking at a big 3 phase thumper unless it’s just a few panels.
Personally if I was buying new I’d look at getting 2 of what @Burdekin suggested value for money wise you can’t beat it.
Edited to say that a conventional gun at around 10 CFM as opposed to around 15 CFM for an hvlp gun, this setup should respray a full car with air fed mask.
FAD is around 2/3 rds of piston displacement (scfm) for most air compressors
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What sort of housing are you going to go for?
I was thinking of the same but it is a tricky balance. Reason being the compressors will require air flow and also to dissipate heat from running.
In a small enclosure this presents problems because even if using acoustic louvres (cost prohibitive) they are also letting the damp outside atmosphere in when not running. And if near neighbouring properties noise could be an issue. Hence I put my compressor in my garage attic.
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I tried to get one of those Joe, they’re hard to come by, and seriously expensive even second hand I was seeing £900, put it this way I’ve been looking for one locally for over 2 years.
These pumps start one at a time, when the first has started the second one starts, so it’s fine through a 32 amp plug. Sequential starting, When I first started looking at these 2 years ago you could get one for under a grand brand new, oh how inflation has made a difference! They’re around if a minimum of £1500 now
These pumps start one at a time, when the first has started the second one starts, so it’s fine through a 32 amp plug. Sequential starting, When I first started looking at these 2 years ago you could get one for under a grand brand new, oh how inflation has made a difference! They’re around if a minimum of £1500 now
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It’s going to be about 1.5 times the height of the compressors with an opening behind the fans which will draw in air from outside, also it will have doors which I can open to allow air to extract when in use, as long as moisture isn’t getting in which I’ll build into the design dampness shouldn’t be an issue as long as there’s ventilation, put it this way my garden sheds are dry, similar design but with an inlet for airflow and adjustable doors either end to let hot air out.
Edited to say that nearest neighbour is about 150 metres away, the base will be a platform like a decking 1 metre by 3.6 metre made from 4X2 joists sunk into the ground above fence posts into concrete with rubber between the compressor feet and the floor which will be 1 inch slats onto the 4x2 frame
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I've got a 3hp Clarke industrial 200l compressor. It's been decent tbf. I only paid 100 quid for it and got two huge metal work benches and a big record vice thrown in with it. I sprayed a car with hvlp with it no probs. As has been said machinemart do have good post warranty support and stock parts.
It needs new caps now though I think, started popping 13a fuses on the regular.
I also have another 150l 3hp compressor and run them together sometimes, or singularly when one breaks down.
It needs new caps now though I think, started popping 13a fuses on the regular.
I also have another 150l 3hp compressor and run them together sometimes, or singularly when one breaks down.
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I have also been looking for a tandem compressor locally for about 6 months now.
I was going to pair up 2no 200L SIP compressors but it does take up alot of space that way.
I know of a tandem compressor available and I am going to look at it today. If it works out I'll use it for my double garage. (Which already has a welding power supply etc)
And ill keep my recently purchased 200L SIP in my front garage and sell off my smaller compressors to recoup some ££
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There's about a 7 second delay between the first pump starting and the second one.
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Spill the beans then,how much did you get it for?
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I have started a thread on it here: Thread 'ABAC Tamdem Compressor servicing and restoration' https://www.mig-welding.co.uk/forum/threads/abac-tamdem-compressor-servicing-and-restoration.129322/
Taking everyone's advice into consideration, I think I've come up with my short list....
I'd love to splurge 2k on a twin compressor unit but I think I would struggle for space in current location.
Are there any clear winners for quality out of this lot or should I just go with the cheapest option?
I'd love to splurge 2k on a twin compressor unit but I think I would struggle for space in current location.
Are there any clear winners for quality out of this lot or should I just go with the cheapest option?
Taking everyone's advice into consideration I've come up with a short list.... Are there any clear winners in the eyes you guys?
I'd love have the funds to spend 2k on a twin pump unit but space and funds dictate otherwise.... So here are the biggest that are within budget...
I'd love have the funds to spend 2k on a twin pump unit but space and funds dictate otherwise.... So here are the biggest that are within budget...
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Call me cynical but if you look at the quality not sure what the extra cash is buying you? Pumps look generic, motors generic, tanks same, PRVs etc. No offence but I doubt the quality is any different to the Wolf Dakota which looks to have the same pump as the Clarke. There's loads of guys on here with the Wolf. I have two and never had a issue and reckon the quality is the same as those three.
I have to admit, other than some subtle differences they do look the same. This was my fear... The same stuff rebranded and sold for a premium.
I suppose that "made in the UK" should really just be "assembled*
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Unless you go up another price level a lot of these will just be re-badged from the far east I would say. If something goes wrong then hopefully the warranty is better. But my second Wolf was damaged in transit, refused delivery and a new one was sent as soon as the other arrived back and no issues at all.
My previous two direct drives were a Clarke top of the range and Aldi, the Clarke always had a little oil in the tank and the Aldi nothing. Both ran fine until I sold them.
They're all generic enough that if the pump or motor goes you just replace them.
