EV road tax

[MetalMonkey]

This is what I think when I see people scraping ice off their windscreen, instead of using an app while having breakfast

Park the car in the garage overnight - or is that another joke...

Alternatively, start the engine up and let it defrost on the driveway? No app required, and no - not illegal.
Or better yet, just get the chauffeur to pick you up, dear boy.

 

[ajlelectronics]

Alternatively, start the engine up and let it defrost on the driveway? No app required, and no - not illegal.

I note that there have been a spate of thefts from driveways as a direct result of this practice, recently. No doubt leading to much bibbling from the owners.

 

[Kayos]

Park the car in the garage overnight - or is that another joke...

Alternatively, start the engine up and let it defrost on the driveway? No app required, and no - not illegal.
Or better yet, just get the chauffeur to pick you up, dear boy.

No garages at the hotels I use, I must get an upgrade next time

 

[voipio]

I've been away this week, very nice stepping out of a hotel to a warm, defrosted car

Preconditioning the battery is done by putting the charging station as the sat nav destination, in the cold if I don't do that it charges at about 18kw until the battery warms up, usually takes 10 mins or so



This is what I think when I see people scraping ice off their windscreen, instead of using an app while having breakfast

Out of interest, does the automatic de-icing work on the headlights and rear light clusters, and is the screenwash tubing preheated?

 

[addjunkie]

No garages at the hotels I use, I must get an upgrade next time

Thats because you are away for work, and by the mere fact you work, in effect makes you and the rest of us all the peasants. Joking aside, the ability to defrost the car and warm the seats up etc is a good thing.

Is it done by heating elements in the different parts of the car, or by heated air on recirc.

Living very rurally I just start it up and leave it running, no fear of it going walk about, but in the towns I can see the concern with all the uncontrolled teenage idiots on the loose. Not all teenagers mind, there are many decent kids about too.

 

[ajlelectronics]

is the screenwash tubing preheated?

A mod I didn't think to do on my GTC, so the washer jets froze. I will revisit that when I have time, a few wraps of the tubing around a heater hose is the normal method.

 

[Pigeon_Droppings2]

Alternatively, start the engine up and let it defrost on the driveway? No app required, and no - not illegal.

Might want to check your insurance policy wording ...I suspect you might cause yourself some problems if it did go for a walk!

Pretty likely to have an unattended vehicle clause I would imagine.

 

[Kayos]

Thats because you are away for work, and by the mere fact you work, in effect makes you and the rest of us all the peasants. Joking aside, the ability to defrost the car and warm the seats up etc is a good thing.

Is it done by heating elements in the different parts of the car, or by heated air on recirc.

Living very rurally I just start it up and leave it running, no fear of it going walk about, but in the towns I can see the concern with all the uncontrolled teenage idiots on the loose. Not all teenagers mind, there are many decent kids about too.

Combination of things, the air con is a heat pump but it has heated screen, heated seats, steering wheel etc

 

[Kayos]

Out of interest, does the automatic de-icing work on the headlights and rear light clusters, and is the screenwash tubing preheated?

The lights are always clear and the screen wash defrosted, not sure if that's intentional or incidental

 

[Smallfry]

Oooooh no, scraping ice is like going back to the stone age. My 2004 Combo van has a remote control Webasto pre heater. Toasty and defrosted after ten minutes. Separate tank, so no fear of reducing range either.

This thread has meandered far from the original topic !

 

[Kayos]

Oooooh no, scraping ice is like going back to the stone age. My 2004 Combo van has a remote control Webasto pre heater. Toasty and defrosted after ten minutes. Separate tank, so no fear of reducing range either.

This thread has meandered far from the original topic !

EV threads always do

 

[Wozzaaah]

Park the car in the garage overnight - or is that another joke...

Alternatively, start the engine up and let it defrost on the driveway? No app required, and no - not illegal.
Or better yet, just get the chauffeur to pick you up, dear boy.

Not illegal, but good luck dealing with your insurance company if someone hops in and drives it away.

 

[indy4x]

I agree most educational attainment has been adjusted……or are we just grumpy old men with rose tinted glasses of the old days!

The latter

I did my O Levels in 1983, my Dad was good at maths and reckoned he was doing the same stuff at aged 13 at Grammar school that I was doing at aged 15

 

[optima21]

EV threads always do

yeah seeing how much mileage they can get out of a thread

 

[Pigeon_Droppings2]

I'm starting to get thread anxiety I think

 

[voipio]

yeah seeing how much mileage they can get out of a thread

Obviously many more miles than you can get out of an EV ;-)

 

[Colin Barron]

There are still plenty of bright, extremely hard working youngsters that come through the system, often despite.

It's worth noting that, GCE,GCSE, O, A and T levels are pretty much irrelevant if you going into the STEM field. They are just a stepping stone to university, which is a stepping stone to a masters, which is a stepping stone to a PhD. And then your real education starts when you actually get into research.

So while it is disappointing that school standards are slipping, and it means more catching up at uni, it doesn't necessarily equate to less quality out the other end. It takes an incredible amount of work to get through the system, which has the effect of sorting the wheat from the chaff, so to speak.

Still, it would be nice to see STEM encouraged at all levels to get kids interested while they are young IMO.

Judging by the fantastic continuous improvements in university results where 2:1s and firsts are the norm and not the exception, something has changed!

 

[Colin Barron]

The latter

I did my O Levels in 1983, my Dad was good at maths and reckoned he was doing the same stuff at aged 13 at Grammar school that I was doing at aged 15

I came across some cse papers in the loft from 1966 to 1972. The main difference to modern papers was each question had several sentences, there was not a diagram to be seen.

 

[Farside]

On any heat producing object

Heat loss through airflow is simple physics, when it comes to shedding heat from a surface.

Wind Chill is the effect humans feel (ok, and other animals). It's purely a made-up term for the warning of humans that cold is deadly stuff.

 

[Seadog]

No calculators and few, if any, multiple choice questions.