Land Rover Defender 110 Rebuild

[Bill Edwards]

I've replaced several injector pipes on our 6cyl cummings crane engine with pipes of different lengths and had no ill effects, I was under the impression that it was the injector that opens and closes and as such it doesn't matter how long the connecting pipe is because once its bled the injector will let out what the pump puts in, you don't get a drop due to length, whatever you put in you will get out.

edited to add I don't think we are talking about modern diesel engines here with coded injectors and pump sensors and ecu's. we are talking about proper engines that work.

I agree there's no compressibility in the fuel and you ain't expanding an injector pipe so length should not be a factor for the distances involved.

Sorry, but it really is wrong to have different pipe lengths. And yes, I'm talking about proper/traditional (old) diesels, not modern stuff which is getting past where my knowledge is.
Manufactures go to the trouble of intricate designs to make them all even, it is important. I believe (though I remember the do's and don't better than the theory, it's a while since I studied this stuff) that the issue of different pipe lengths is in the resistance to flow.

I'm not saying you can't change them without noticing the effect, but that doesn't mean you can always get away with it, and it doesn't mean the engine is still working exactly as it should. Fuel injection is very precise.

 

[Bill Edwards]

Kim, sorry for answering things which are de-railing your post...!

Looking good to me, I know it's satisfying when you get a good amount of bits together and make something start to take shape. Well, when I say I know, I'm talking about very distant memories in my case!

When are you taking orders to do work for other people? I've a landy due for a rebuild...!

 

[KimB]

Kim I must have missed it, but have you put your Waxoil type stuff in the chassis box sections yet?

Excellent progress by the way.

Not yet, another thing I need to buy
I forgot to mention my chassis looks so bad because I don't think it's ever been filled with cavity wax judging by how dry the wiring loom is.

Kim, sorry for answering things which are de-railing your post...!

Looking good to me, I know it's satisfying when you get a good amount of bits together and make something start to take shape. Well, when I say I know, I'm talking about very distant memories in my case!

When are you taking orders to do work for other people? I've a landy due for a rebuild...!

That's okay
And it is very satisfying but now that I'm getting to the stage or painting again it's all a bit daunting and the fact it's painting body panels I want it to look proffesional so really nervous about it all.
Not sure I'd want to do it again I did wonder how much it would cost for me to pay someone else to do this like how I'm doing it, I've spent about 4k in parts so far, I think I'm looking at 5k total for all the parts by the time it's done

 

[Bill Edwards]

A fortune, it would easily double the costs.

And not just that, you are making a better job.
I'm not knocking any garages, but you're doing a first rate job and you tend not to see garages greasing up everything with care so it can be undone easily when it breaks. It's just not something many people will pay someone over £30 per hour to do, so you never see it done.
Take it somewhere that will do it to the same standard and it'd probably end up 3x as much I would think.

 

[Wendelspanswick]

A fortune, it would easily double the costs.

And not just that, you are making a better job.
I'm not knocking any garages, but you're doing a first rate job and you tend not to see garages greasing up everything with care so it can be undone easily when it breaks. It's just not something many people will pay someone over £30 per hour to do, so you never see it done.
Take it somewhere that will do it to the same standard and it'd probably end up 3x as much I would think.

I agree with the statement about doing a job yourself, it might take you twice as long but it will be done to a standard you are happy with. I have learnt to my cost what happens if you rely on someone to do a good job, pay them good money, and then are disappointed with the end result and wishing you had done it yourself.

 

[awemawson]

And also you will know the vehicle inside out - a huge benefit in the future. My current house I had rebuilt / refurbished by a builder as I was getting too long in the tooth, and although they did a good job overall, not always as I'd have done it. My previous four house I've personally gutted, and done all the plumbing and wiring myself and knew every inch of it. In the current house I keep finding things that annoy me either by having been done wrong, or just that I don't quite know how they've done something. There's a lot to be said for D-I-Y

 

[Bill Edwards]

Well that's very true.
But some of us can hardly remember what we did 3 hours ago, so the memory of how a vehicle was rebuilt would probably have largely disappeared for me by the time I had to use that knowledge to repair it (even on a landy)!

 

[colnerov]

Hi Kim, A tip. Make sure you position all the hose clips so you can get a screwdriver on them with the rear body on. Nothing worse than in the future trying to undo a hose clip that is pointing at the body floor. I'm looking at the tank filler breather pipe as an example.

Colin

 

[KimB]

And also you will know the vehicle inside out - a huge benefit in the future. My current house I had rebuilt / refurbished by a builder as I was getting too long in the tooth, and although they did a good job overall, not always as I'd have done it. My previous four house I've personally gutted, and done all the plumbing and wiring myself and knew every inch of it. In the current house I keep finding things that annoy me either by having been done wrong, or just that I don't quite know how they've done something. There's a lot to be said for D-I-Y

I agree, I hate not knowing something about my cars or general stuff

Well that's very true.
But some of us can hardly remember what we did 3 hours ago, so the memory of how a vehicle was rebuilt would probably have largely disappeared for me by the time I had to use that knowledge to repair it (even on a landy)!

I forget most of what I'm doing put some brake pipe clips in the wrong place more new parts :'(

Hi Kim, A tip. Make sure you position all the hose clips so you can get a screwdriver on them with the rear body on. Nothing worse than in the future trying to undo a hose clip that is pointing at the body floor. I'm looking at the tank filler breather pipe as an example.

Colin

Don't worry u will made that mistake before, never again!

 

[RDB logs]

Thank you all for the diesel line info. It's good to learn about these things!

Sorry for side track on your addictive thread! What will happen when you finish as we won't have anything to look forward to reading!

 

[Robotstar5]

I looked at the wiring this afternoon, it's a bit worse than I thought, there are quite a few broken connections and most of the tape has gone funny.

Try to use proper non-adhesive tape it will allow the loom to flex properly.

 

[KimB]

Thank you all for the diesel line info. It's good to learn about these things!

Sorry for side track on your addictive thread! What will happen when you finish as we won't have anything to look forward to reading!

That's okay you can pay me to do more lol. Just kidding maybe I'll do some other projects. I'm always doing something or other with work

Try to use proper non-adhesive tape it will allow the loom to flex properly.

Brilliant thanks can't belive how much it costs! I found it on eBay for £4.70 delivered and longer I'll order one for the loom

 

[The Devils Reject]

I've always used self-amalgamating tape for wrapping my looms. It's handy having a mate who can get it by the box buckshee from his work place

 

[colnerov]

Hi as you've got the loom to the rear unwrapped you might want to think about running a fused battery and/or ignition feed through to the rear. Then you could then have an accessory point at the rear for a worklight, lead light or small compressor to inflate tyres or anything else you can think of.

Colin

 

[KimB]

Hi as you've got the loom to the rear unwrapped you might want to think about running a fused battery and/or ignition feed through to the rear. Then you could then have an accessory point at the rear for a worklight, lead light or small compressor to inflate tyres or anything else you can think of.

Colin

Good idea although I'm going to be running an Anderson plug to the rear. But work light will be going on a roof rack I'll buy or make . I think I'm going to replace the twin plugs for the new style plug and fit an anderson plug for my trailer.

 

[KimB]

Was going to fit the gearbox and transfer today but ive just realised Ive only been sent one gearbox mount, what a pain! Still loads to sort out photos later.

 

[lexi]

Are you going to do big travel with this Defender Kim?

 

[KimB]

Are you going to do big travel with this Defender Kim?

If by big travels you mean allot of miles yes I am. I've got a discovery transfer box I'm about to re seal and swap parts over

 

[KimB]

Not massively productive today I pulled the (new to me) transfer box out today and pulled the inspection covers off to inspect and re seal it along with replace and service the hand brake assembly.
Started by pulling the input shaft cover off with the beading retainer

Luckily the imput shaft is like new!

Removed the rectangle inspection cover, spun it all round and examined all the gears for wear or flaking to the gear face. Luckily they are all in excellent condition.

I noticed the dif lock actuator was seized so pulled the little cover off, freed it up then rubbed down with emery pad, fitted new o rings and re fitted it.

The only thing I didn't do is remove the hi/low selector box but it won't take a moment.

I re sealed it all up

Cleaned the hand brake shoes and drum. The brake should work excellently, these little shoe retaining clips are an enormous pain to refit once removing!

Other than removing hi/low and re sealing its done. I need to remove the gearbox from the old transfer box then I can mate them and fit them

 

[Cobbler]

Hi Kim, you can get a little tool to remove & refit that type of retainer, never used one or seen one in the flesh, only pictures. It looks a little bit like a box spanner with a slot cut in it so you can see in, according to the photos I've seen.
I have always done them with a pair of pliers & held the pin in position with my fingers, it's a bit of a knack to refitting them that way, generally they go on ok, then you get one that you can struggle with, sounds like you've got one of those.
What's the condition of the engine like? If your going to rebuild that as well, you bills will be going up again!

Keep up the good work, I can watch someone working all day.