Plug wiring for MW3000 remote help

[Sawdustmaker]

The foot pedals listed with the MW3000 in the catalog are TR2200 F and TR2200 FM.

 

[Richard.]

Must be different then which is confusing as the literature on the tr52mc says it works with the mw 3000. Perhaps an older model.
Give me 5 I'll put up some Pics.

 

[Richard.]

Yes there is a small board in there and the pins on the pedal are in a different place so it's probably a different pedal. Meaning my wiring diagram will be wrong for yours also. SSC probably won't make this as I'd imagine like the esab can based pedals there is more to it. I'd suggest bite the bullet look on eBay de and source a used one.

 

[Jim Davey]

I have a simple wiring diagram that I knocked up for these pedals years ago so I could convert my Fronius hire machines from expensive pedals to sensible ones. I can post it up if needed.

 

[Richard.]

I have a simple wiring diagram that I knocked up for these pedals years ago so I could convert my Fronius hire machines from expensive pedals to sensible ones. I can post it up if needed.

Not many people have that sort of info jim I've read many forums of people wanting to get a pedal but not pay ridiculous oe prices for them. You certainly know your stuff mate.

 

[Jim Davey]

I was a Fronius agent for a good few years Richard, I got sent on a service course or two and have played with lots of their kit by now. It's lovely stuff but I'm very happy with my top level brand. EWM are a great partnership for us and a lot easier to sell than a Fronius.

 

[Richard.]

No question about it EWM equipment is excellent. I've got a soft spot for there gear as I spent a lot of years with the 2200 triton at my side and it was faultless. I had my fronius for a while too and that was just as lovely at the blue light. But it's age and the fact parts are becoming obsolete meant I'd be better off getting a return on it while it was still spot on. Having that little 2000 for a while also gave me a soft spot for the fronius gear too. I personally would really struggle to chose between the two brands.

 

[Vmac]

I was up at Fronius eastkilbride couple of weeks back , and picked up there new Manual welding catalogue and it's got the TR52MC in it and both tr2200f & tr2200fm , some place I was like a kid in a sweetie shop , I had to be dragged out , great bunch of lads , very helpful !

 

[Richard.]

I had the TR52mc and TR50mc as far as I was told both items are becoming obsolete as none of the new Fronius equipment is Compatable with them.
Both seriously good items but pricey. The pedal was excellent Infact as it was so smooth without a mm of slop or notching. Both items used to be plugged together with the cabling to allow for pedal pulsing. Even on ac a 2000hz/sec pulse pedal controlled could be done if it was wanted. (I wasn't a fan of ac pulse mind).

 

[Daniel Koppius]

Hi Jim,

I am looking for wiring diagram from TR52mc for my welder, it would be greate, if you could send it to me.

Thanks a lot in advance!!

Regards,
Daniel

 

[Jim Davey]

Hi Jim,

I am looking for wiring diagram from TR52mc for my welder, it would be greate, if you could send it to me.

Thanks a lot in advance!!

Regards,
Daniel

Hi Daniel,

I got your PM, I'll try and dig it out when I'm back at work Jan 4th.

Thanks

 

[Daniel Koppius]

... cool, thank you, Jim.

 

[MWT_Kodric]

Hello,

does anyone still have the wiring diagram for the Fronius foot pedal? I'm an electrical engineer and if i could get some detailed pictures of the foot pedal's PCB i believe i can make a cheap replica of it.

Thanks

 

[D5meister]

Hi all, noob here. I have a migatronic mig bought from new in about 2006 so I could allways knock bits up. Did a bit of stainless with it one time.

I have been wanting to join the TIG party for years to do ally etc and do precision welds. Im an engineer and neat welds do it for me every time.


Earlier I bought a used magicwave 2200. (To me, Ive spent the kids Uni fund!!)

I am in the market for any pedal info AND OR for the round or Bar shaped connector pinning on the 2200 JOB



I have electronics experience and should be able to make a working pedal. (thats the plan at least)

If possible Id appreciate measuring someones existing one, in use, with my oscilloscope - I can then mimic the same data format or pulse train at the correct voltage on a home made pedal.

Thanks in advance to anyone who could help me.

I also am in the market for a good torch (air cooled) CK seem good - maybe one of those.

Steven Nr Huntingdon Cambs

 

[Richard.]

The Tr52mc was a pedal that could be copied as it was a 25k pot a circuit board and a switch. Tecarc do one for it. Your machine requires the tr2200 or tr2200fm pedal. No body is copying that in a hurry as it works on a can bus system. If tecarc or ssc won’t build one I personally don’t think you’ve got much hope. Finding them used isn’t a common occurrence either. You don’t want to know the price of a new one.

 

[Richard.]

A little bit of more bad news for you. Your ck tig torch ain’t fitting that machine either. It’s an odd shaped gas through dins plug. You’ve got 2 options and neither are ideal.
1) buy the adapter (£150)
2) replace the gas through dinse with a standard dinse and separated gas connector. (Cheaper but a pain in the a...... and means drilling a hole in your machine.
Finally to really put a downer on the day when you break into the kids driving fund to buy your pedal you also need to buy a cable for it too. Yes they are 2 separate parts with 2 separate extortionate prices. Fronius machines are top class but they have got you by the short and curlys unless you buy one complete and ready to go.

 

[D5meister]

ohh, thanks Richard.

I can always relist it I guess, shouldnt lose too much.

Some guy is using CAN bus on a project in work. It is a bit subtle. Your right its difficult. I can do the hardware design to produce CAN differential signals.

What is difficult is finding the CAN ID for the pedal which will be unique and then how the pot or rotary encoder position is converted to data, often a CRC (Cyclic redundancy check) is computed and added to the sent word.


There is a guy on you tube doing it with a pot into a small uprocessor. If he helps me Im in with a fairly remote chance.

Looks like Ive stitched myself up here, just about the worst mistake Ive ever made.


Take it on the chin and reassess. That will teach me not to be so selfish with the family kitty.

I can use it as a stick welder for a while. This dream has slid into a mare

Thanks again

 

[Hood]

A little bit of more bad news for you. Your ck tig torch ain’t fitting that machine either. It’s an odd shaped gas through dins plug. ....

You got any pics of it Richard?
Could it not be made relatively easily?

 

[Richard.]

You got any pics of it Richard?
Could it not be made relatively easily?

It can be made easily
The only tricky part is the square notch on the dins. I’m sure your kit could cut that out mind. Other than that it’s a simple lathe job.
No drawing I’m afraid. I’ll find a pic

 

[Richard.]

ohh, thanks Richard.

I can always relist it I guess, shouldnt lose too much.

Some guy is using CAN bus on a project in work. It is a bit subtle. Your right its difficult. I can do the hardware design to produce CAN differential signals.

What is difficult is finding the CAN ID for the pedal which will be unique and then how the pot or rotary encoder position is converted to data, often a CRC (Cyclic redundancy check) is computed and added to the sent word.


There is a guy on you tube doing it with a pot into a small uprocessor. If he helps me Im in with a fairly remote chance.

Looks like Ive stitched myself up here, just about the worst mistake Ive ever made.


Take it on the chin and reassess. That will teach me not to be so selfish with the family kitty.

I can use it as a stick welder for a while. This dream has slid into a mare

Thanks again

Well no it hasn’t. You’ve bought just about the best kit money can buy.
A pedal isn’t the be all and end all ya know.
I bet I use mine once a month at the most and I weld aluminium on it all the time so you certainly don’t need one. I’d give up my pedal any day before a water cooler and a decent comfortable torch.
Regarding your torch.... did you actually get a torch with it?