Rocket Stove

[gaz1]

They kick none out apear as smokeless also its a learning curve with them

JUst like any new wood stove

 

[bigegg]

I notice some of you mention using them to heat a shed. How much smoke do these things kick out once going, it doesn't look like much, how would it be in a workshop, too much smoke?

They kick none out apear as smokeless also its a learning curve with them

JUst like any new wood stove

no smoke at all, once hot.
it does have to have a chimberly to outside, though.
if you pass the outlet through (not into!) a greenhouse/earth bank/flowerbed, the output can be almost undetectable. (just a bit of water vapour)
and you'll have a frostfree growing area.

 

[ukracer]

no smoke at all, once hot.
it does have to have a chimberly to outside, though.
if you pass the outlet through (not into!) a greenhouse/earth bank/flowerbed, the output can be almost undetectable. (just a bit of water vapour)
and you'll have a frostfree growing area.

Greenhouse. could you expand a little please??

 

[jimbo84]

no smoke at all, once hot.
it does have to have a chimberly to outside, though.
if you pass the outlet through (not into!) a greenhouse/earth bank/flowerbed, the output can be almost undetectable. (just a bit of water vapour)
and you'll have a frostfree growing area.

How is it likely to be inside a 20ft shipping container with a door open without a chimney? Would that be enough to get rid of any fumes/ bad gasses?

Excuse what probably seem like daft questions but I have limited knowledge on stoves, gasses and ventilation. Probably seems daft to heat a place with an open door but I'm in and out all day so the door is usually open anyway and I'm not keen on cutting a hole for a chimney through the side/roof of the container at risk of it affecting any future resale value.

An electric heater would be the solution but I'm off grid and don't have the genny on for most of the day. I have a propane space heater but again it's the electric situation and the cost and moisture they pump out, looking for a good cheap solution and a rocket stove seems ideal.

 

[gaz1]

to be fair heres my videos of different builds ive done

https://www.dailymotion.com/gadily

 

[gaz1]

right jimbo any type of stove can be used with your container even by just piping out in flexi stainless steel flue.
the advantage with a rocket stove the flue dosnt get so hot unlike the other systems easy enough to undo and put away just note not inside your store or it does have a nice burnt wood smell to it

can it warm your container even at the doorway it could reach further back but i dont think any stove electric heater is going to be much good if your in and out all day

however saying that if something could be made so a flue could be fitted but also allow you to open and close that container door all dsy then yes it can be fitted but also heat right to the back of the container

a basic rocket stove wouldnt be the one you want its fine with my shed at 11ft x 10ft with door open in middle of winter with snow on the ground

ive also used it with chimney pocking through the door it certainly wamed the place up

i could tellbyou how to pipe that heat further down the container therefore 2 spots of good heat would be far better than just a place near the door area

just remember whichever one you pick if you slip onto them you are going to get burn marks and they will hurt

 

[gaz1]

Greenhouse. could you expand a little please??

rocket stove can be used as a heat store in greenhouses or within seed germination areas it allows plants to get an early start in the season

bad sound on this one but at least they update on how things are going on many uses dont do

 

[bigegg]

Greenhouse. could you expand a little please??

build a rocket stove half buried at one end of the greenhouse. have an extended flue running underground to heat the soil.

like a "rocket mass heater" but using the planted soil as the "mass"

 

[bigegg]

How is it likely to be inside a 20ft shipping container with a door open without a chimney? Would that be enough to get rid of any fumes/ bad gasses?

Excuse what probably seem like daft questions but I have limited knowledge on stoves, gasses and ventilation. Probably seems daft to heat a place with an open door but I'm in and out all day so the door is usually open anyway and I'm not keen on cutting a hole for a chimney through the side/roof of the container at risk of it affecting any future resale value.

An electric heater would be the solution but I'm off grid and don't have the genny on for most of the day. I have a propane space heater but again it's the electric situation and the cost and moisture they pump out, looking for a good cheap solution and a rocket stove seems ideal.

don't put it in your container without an external vent for the flue.

you *will* die.

to heat the entire container, could you put the stove near the door then run the flue down one wall, across the back, then along the other wall, and out the door again?


but...
for the reduction in value a 6in hole [1] would make at resale I wouldn't worry -
a ready installed heater would *add* to value.

[1]two holes are better: in and out.
they could be patched up in 10 minutes with a couple of squares of corten plate.

 

[gaz1]

rocket stoves can run on 3"/ 4" and 5" flues a charcoal burner can run for 18 hrs and is also a small flue 2" + your choice

 

[jimbo84]

Thanks for the advice it's very much appreciated.

The door is more ajar all day than fully open so some heat would be kept in but limited. I have a couple of meters of the flexible flue that I salvaged a while ago thinking it may come in useful.

I think the option of a temporary flue pipe that is flexible that I can shove out of the door in the morning is the way to go, keeping it up at roof level out of the way. Not too worried about the smell of the burnt wood.

Maybe over simplifying things here but is it just a case of connecting the flue at the exhaust of the stove (where a pan or kettle would go)?

 

[bigegg]

Thanks for the advice it's very much appreciated.

The door is more ajar all day than fully open so some heat would be kept in but limited. I have a couple of meters of the flexible flue that I salvaged a while ago thinking it may come in useful.

I think the option of a temporary flue pipe that is flexible that I can shove out of the door in the morning is the way to go, keeping it up at roof level out of the way. Not too worried about the smell of the burnt wood.

Maybe over simplifying things here but is it just a case of connecting the flue at the exhaust of the stove (where a pan or kettle would go)?

basically

 

[gaz1]

exhaust is at bottom of rocket stove normal wood burner at top

please take a look at my video links it shows i have the flue right next door to a plastic guttering on my first start up of one thats just been built

ive now moved on from that stove and gone for more heating of the shed air with plenty of movement of heated air

also i can store alot less wood than a normal wood stove however the stove has a higher cost to build it so please note this compared to a normal wood stove

ive recently played with a new stove and i prefer a rocket stove

ive played even with a coal fire i prefer rocket stove

 

[gaz1]

my stove build is on here as well as another forum

https://www.mig-welding.co.uk/forum/threads/first-build-rocket-burner.45497/

 

[julianf]

Don't light a fire in a shipping container without a flue.

I know it's been said above, but I'll say it again.

Remember the classic way people commit suicide - they burn diesel and pipe the exhaust into a confined space (their car).

Sure you might leave the door of the container open, so it might be ok... But the other side of "might" is "might not" !

 

[Seadog]

The partner of a friend, a very talented engineer by all accounts, managed to kill himself. He was using a generator to power his workshop and had installed a long exhaust which, unfortunately, leaked.

He was involved in the Zero Emission project - https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/04/090424073909.htm

 

[ukracer]

it does have to have a chimberly to outside, though.
if you pass the outlet through (not into!) a greenhouse/earth bank/flowerbed, the output can be almost undetectable. (just a bit of water vapour)

This is the part i can not follow.
Where does the hole at the end of the flu finish.
Above head height?
In the soil. ( It does say not into..)
Floor level?

Where do you see the water vapour?

Is it going through the soil so it becomes undetectable or just to provide a place for seeds?

I ask because i have new neighbours...i got rid of the old ones.. so now i can have a rocket stove and the new neighbours would be fine with it.
I also have a greenhouse inches behind the workshop (literally)

 

[slim_boy_fat]

Probably a nonsense suggestion, but could the set-up be run in reverse? The stove just outside and the stainless flue run into the container in a U shape along the wall, returning to exit the fumes to atmosphere? That way, you could even close one half of the door(s).

 

[gaz1]

ukracer the flue can be at head height it would make no difference as theres no smell or smoke after a few minutes of firing it up my system goes smokeless within minutes but one in an earth moundwould take about 15 mins roughly to go smokeless

bigegg can advice differently

as goes for a flue it is better to have it a little higher than head height just to get a better draw on the stove but also to clear any bad smells

on another note neighbours around my end knew i have a stove but a lady could smell it visitor to neighbours but couldnt see anything

on asking it was quoted to have a sweet smell not accrid or the smell of burning wood you can taste

so i showed my stove being lit and running they both loved the heat but also the smokeless reference of my stove

because im involved with council planning i created those vids to show enviromental health the fact that my stove is smokeless really quickly and also that no smell is present whilst it is in use by passers by by asking them if theres a bad smell from a wood stove

each person has said no upon showingvthe stove being lit with no smoke from the flue they are kinda surprised

 

[james butler]

do you think it possible to make a rocket stove i could semi submerge in a pool 70cm deep as a water heater?