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Gazz292
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@jonclancy yeah i am wondering that too... its almost like i've got maybe an acetylene regulators innards in an argon regulators body, as trying different things with this regulator, it definitely seems that it cuts off flow when the inlet gets over a certain pressure.
@Hmac yes you need 6mm inside diameter hose between the cylinders regulator and the rectus 21 fitting that plugs in the back of the machine (i ordered the only hose on weldes's site, and it was 8mm, too big)
You don't get a stick welding stinger, but they are cheap enough to get off amazon / ebay, get one with a dinse 35 - 50 connector on the end, and it'll plug straight in.
@Hmac yes you need 6mm inside diameter hose between the cylinders regulator and the rectus 21 fitting that plugs in the back of the machine (i ordered the only hose on weldes's site, and it was 8mm, too big)
You don't get a stick welding stinger, but they are cheap enough to get off amazon / ebay, get one with a dinse 35 - 50 connector on the end, and it'll plug straight in.
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I prefer 6mm rubber hose, but you could use 6mm nylon braided pvc. Either will work
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And this was only at 51A.
It's so stable, no comparison to my old TIG welder, and for sure I'm an amateur not got a clue what I'm doing....
Oh, and as already said in another topic; it so quiet, thanks to the "intelligent" cooling fan!
I don't think it's going to be killed that quick, to be honest; the machine is for sure a killer!
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Hi, I´m going to buy one Sherman 206P digitig.
The problem is there is no website, and the only user manual I have been able to find is english but I think not very wel trasnated (And I don´t speak english very well, I´m learning it)
I´m afraid to don´t understand how to run it because the only welder I have used is an old tranaformer MMA welder
What do you think?
The problem is there is no website, and the only user manual I have been able to find is english but I think not very wel trasnated (And I don´t speak english very well, I´m learning it)
I´m afraid to don´t understand how to run it because the only welder I have used is an old tranaformer MMA welder
What do you think?
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You could use Google translate to translate the English user manual to Spanish?
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I thought there was a "local" brand of the same jasic/sherman machine in Spain....don't recall what it is ....I'm sure it's posted somewhere in the last 100 pages of this thread....might have a manual?
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*Much* earlier in this thread there were links to Jasic manuals
https://www.jasic.co.uk/tig-200p-digital-documents
(I think there were other links, too).
Robert1998
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No no. I meant that the manual is poor translated to english. If is in English I can undertand everything. The problem is the manual I found is a mix of english and Polish?
Thank you for the link.
Ok, everybody talks well about this machine. So I´m gping to buy it.
Thanks for all your help
Thank you for the link.
Ok, everybody talks well about this machine. So I´m gping to buy it.
Thanks for all your help
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I've found some manuals for the 206p (or lookalikes!). I've attached these
I found this one too but it's too big to attach here (20MB originally, even shrunk to 5.7MB it won't upload here): http://www.razorweld.com/userfiles/file/TIG200 ACDC Manual.pdf
I found this one too but it's too big to attach here (20MB originally, even shrunk to 5.7MB it won't upload here): http://www.razorweld.com/userfiles/file/TIG200 ACDC Manual.pdf
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My tig now has a quick connect for the gas out to the torch connection:
I used an M10x1 female, to 1/8 BSPP male adaptor : https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/113199012905
A rectus 21 quick coupler with a female 1/8 BSP thread : https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/131240140092
Then i got a pack of 5 male fittings with 6mm hose tails: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/121384130076
I probably paid too much for these bits, but i've ordered all my air line fittings from that person on ebay, and everything's been spot on, you can get the rectus 2 coupler with a M10x1 thread, but the only place i've found that sells them only sell in bulk to businesses, the BSP threaded ones are everywhere, as they are used on those window washing thru pole water flow systems.
I just used a little thread sealant, and screwed the fittings onto the welder, removed the hose tail with nut from the torch gas connection and put a male rectus fitting in its place... with a new crimp on hose clamp.
Tested everything and no leaks at all.
i know it's hardly a hassle to get a spanner out to crack off the existing gas fitting, but the hassle is when you get other torch hoses, it's hard to get the M10x1 fitting, for the cheaper stuff anyway.
I used an M10x1 female, to 1/8 BSPP male adaptor : https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/113199012905
A rectus 21 quick coupler with a female 1/8 BSP thread : https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/131240140092
Then i got a pack of 5 male fittings with 6mm hose tails: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/121384130076
I probably paid too much for these bits, but i've ordered all my air line fittings from that person on ebay, and everything's been spot on, you can get the rectus 2 coupler with a M10x1 thread, but the only place i've found that sells them only sell in bulk to businesses, the BSP threaded ones are everywhere, as they are used on those window washing thru pole water flow systems.
I just used a little thread sealant, and screwed the fittings onto the welder, removed the hose tail with nut from the torch gas connection and put a male rectus fitting in its place... with a new crimp on hose clamp.
Tested everything and no leaks at all.
i know it's hardly a hassle to get a spanner out to crack off the existing gas fitting, but the hassle is when you get other torch hoses, it's hard to get the M10x1 fitting, for the cheaper stuff anyway.
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Hi guys, this magic thread helped me decide for a 206p as well! Unfortunately I am experiencing some severe Issues with it and since you all seem to have a lot of experience with this welder now I am begging for some advice! I listed my problems - as I thought is the way to do - in the other part of this forum: https://www.mig-welding.co.uk/forum/threads/sherman-206p-several-issues.107889/ . If it is relevant to the people in this topic I could also write the issues down here if it is of any use to the people trying to decide for one? I hope it is just me being stupid or otherwise I will have to send it back. I'm heartbroken and hoping for some wisdom! Thanks, Simon
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Got 2 parcels in the post today,
one was the replacement regulator from sitebox, excellent customer service from them, they haven't even picked the faulty regulator up yet.
New regulator works as it should, i'm amazed at just how little i need to open the knob to get 7LPM on the flow meter, i set the regulator to about 10LPM, then took it down to 7 with the flowmeters knob, is this how i should be doing it? i get a very tiny surge when the gas solenoid opens on the welder, then it's a lovely gentle hiss....
That is so much better than the oxy torch impersonation it was doing every 3 seconds with my old regulator
I'm using a size 7 cup with a standard collet body atm, and a 2.4mm tungsten, practicing at 40 amps on some ~1.2mm steel.
The other parcel was from Zoro, a kennedy TTF17 torch set up as recommended a few pages back.
i changed the dinse 10-25 plug on it for a 35-50 one as i didnt want to faff with adapters, i also put a rectus end on the gas pipe, and soldered the switch wires to the spare plug that i had bought when i got the welder.
Wow, what a difference, i know the euro style torches are a bit bulky even for a 26 sized torch, but this 17 sized torch is just perfect and so much better with the traditional paddle type switch,
The umbilical is still a little cumbersome... it's no CK superflex (not that i've ever held one of them, but i have a chinese knock off version on it's way with a 9 sized torch)
But the kennedy's umbilical is no where as bad as the one for the 26 size torch, the fabric sleeve helps a lot too i think.
And going OT here a bit, i also got a dinse 35-50 socket and fitted that to my sip migmate 105 in place of the fixed earth lead, had to drill the hole out a fair bit (it's got the hole with key for a dinse 10-25 in the panel it seems. but nooo, i wanted the big one didn't i)
but i swear, i got a much better mig weld using the bigger earth lead off the tig that i ever got before on that machine, and i havent done the wire feed motor mods yet.... oh yeah, those little disposable bottles of CO2, i'm getting 5LPM out of it, no wonder they are useless outside where the wind blows the shielding gas away.
one was the replacement regulator from sitebox, excellent customer service from them, they haven't even picked the faulty regulator up yet.
New regulator works as it should, i'm amazed at just how little i need to open the knob to get 7LPM on the flow meter, i set the regulator to about 10LPM, then took it down to 7 with the flowmeters knob, is this how i should be doing it? i get a very tiny surge when the gas solenoid opens on the welder, then it's a lovely gentle hiss....
That is so much better than the oxy torch impersonation it was doing every 3 seconds with my old regulator
I'm using a size 7 cup with a standard collet body atm, and a 2.4mm tungsten, practicing at 40 amps on some ~1.2mm steel.
The other parcel was from Zoro, a kennedy TTF17 torch set up as recommended a few pages back.
i changed the dinse 10-25 plug on it for a 35-50 one as i didnt want to faff with adapters, i also put a rectus end on the gas pipe, and soldered the switch wires to the spare plug that i had bought when i got the welder.
Wow, what a difference, i know the euro style torches are a bit bulky even for a 26 sized torch, but this 17 sized torch is just perfect and so much better with the traditional paddle type switch,
The umbilical is still a little cumbersome... it's no CK superflex (not that i've ever held one of them, but i have a chinese knock off version on it's way with a 9 sized torch)
But the kennedy's umbilical is no where as bad as the one for the 26 size torch, the fabric sleeve helps a lot too i think.
And going OT here a bit, i also got a dinse 35-50 socket and fitted that to my sip migmate 105 in place of the fixed earth lead, had to drill the hole out a fair bit (it's got the hole with key for a dinse 10-25 in the panel it seems. but nooo, i wanted the big one didn't i)
but i swear, i got a much better mig weld using the bigger earth lead off the tig that i ever got before on that machine, and i havent done the wire feed motor mods yet.... oh yeah, those little disposable bottles of CO2, i'm getting 5LPM out of it, no wonder they are useless outside where the wind blows the shielding gas away.
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At Weldes.de you can order a refill. They will order/arrange a pick up of the empty and delivery of the re-filled bottle (all according to their website, don't have 1st hand experience, but please keep us posted if you decide to make use of it).
Cheers
