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If it's the same as mine then you need ¼" or 6.5mm internal diameter.
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Menno Bruinen
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Sold my trusty old Elektra Beckum WIG 160 Dci, and the guy who bought it didn't need the trolley.
Although I was planning to build a new trolley, I chucked the Sherman on the old one.
And practiced some with the new machine..... No manual in English let alone Dutch (only Polish.....) But I will find it out one day what all the buttons will do (if you've got valuable info to improve my skills, then please don't hesitate to tell me!).
Will buy some additional parts too, the tungsten would not clamp tight on the holder. It will be allright in time!
Although I was planning to build a new trolley, I chucked the Sherman on the old one.
And practiced some with the new machine..... No manual in English let alone Dutch (only Polish.....) But I will find it out one day what all the buttons will do (if you've got valuable info to improve my skills, then please don't hesitate to tell me!).
Will buy some additional parts too, the tungsten would not clamp tight on the holder. It will be allright in time!
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Get the Jasic or Razorweld manual.
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(I'm so sorry Wilkinson...)
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https://www.jasic.co.uk/tig-200p-mini-acdc-documents
the sherman comes with a 3.2mm collet body, and a 1.6 collet and 1.6mm tungsten, that's likely why they dont grip it properly.
the sherman comes with a 3.2mm collet body, and a 1.6 collet and 1.6mm tungsten, that's likely why they dont grip it properly.
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@Menno Bruinen I found the PDF linked below. Any good?
NL P.02 Gelieve te lezen en voor later gebruik bewaren
FR P.30 Veuillez lire et conserver pour consultation ultérieure
EN P.58 Please read and keep for future reference
TIG 200P ACDC E201
NL P.02 Gelieve te lezen en voor later gebruik bewaren
FR P.30 Veuillez lire et conserver pour consultation ultérieure
EN P.58 Please read and keep for future reference
TIG 200P ACDC E201
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Yes I'm aware of the collects. I've put a purple/Lila 1.6 tungsten in the 1.6mm collet..... Now, watch the collet and see how the diameter on the inside is off. Also look at the shadow on the outside of the collet. It's not going to grip sufficient.....
You know, I cannot moan about it, I'm as happy as a puppy with the new machine.
The former welding machine had Abicor Binzel torch and felt good in quality.
Then again, the quality has to cut corners somewhere in this price range (I guess), and if it's this, wellI can live with it very happily, because it's peanuts to get it sorted!
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Gazz292
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Just ordered one of those kennedy wp-17f torch sets thanks to the recommendations on here, i went for a dinse 35-50 plug rather than an adapter, so will swap out the smaller dinse connector that comes on the kennedy setup,
I also have the bits coming from ebay to put a rectus 21 connector on the front of the machine, so that'll sort the gas connection out (got a female M10x1 to male 1/4 BSP fitting, and a female 1/4 BSP rectus 21 connector, i know the M10x1 connection seals on a cone, thinking about cutting the hose barb part off the stock fitting and placing the cone piece inside the adapter, i imagine i'll have to change the profile of the side that butts up against the adaptor, but if that doesn't work i have some pipe thread sealant that i've used on all my air line connections in the shed, and the compressor tank takes over a week to leak down now)
I'm also thinking about ordering a wp-9 torch with a soft hose:
It's ~£20 from china, so i won't be expecting great quality, but i'll eventually have the choice of the stock sherman 26 size torch and hose, or change to a 26 flex head on a standard tubular handle with the stock hose, the kennedy 17 size flex head torch with the hose that comes with it, the cheap wp9 flex head with the soft hose, and i should hopefully be able to put the kennedy 17 head on the soft hose?
I also have the bits coming from ebay to put a rectus 21 connector on the front of the machine, so that'll sort the gas connection out (got a female M10x1 to male 1/4 BSP fitting, and a female 1/4 BSP rectus 21 connector, i know the M10x1 connection seals on a cone, thinking about cutting the hose barb part off the stock fitting and placing the cone piece inside the adapter, i imagine i'll have to change the profile of the side that butts up against the adaptor, but if that doesn't work i have some pipe thread sealant that i've used on all my air line connections in the shed, and the compressor tank takes over a week to leak down now)
I'm also thinking about ordering a wp-9 torch with a soft hose:
It's ~£20 from china, so i won't be expecting great quality, but i'll eventually have the choice of the stock sherman 26 size torch and hose, or change to a 26 flex head on a standard tubular handle with the stock hose, the kennedy 17 size flex head torch with the hose that comes with it, the cheap wp9 flex head with the soft hose, and i should hopefully be able to put the kennedy 17 head on the soft hose?
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Gotta love amazon, sunday deliveries at 18:30... my 6mm hose to link the argon bottle to the welder just arrived, so i made up a 3 meter long hose, got the welder ready, set it to 50 amps,
Put the peashooter on the cup and pulled the trigger, wound the regulator knob out till it was showing about 10 LPM... and the regulator is making a creaking groaning noises, and pulsing the gas
I can only guess that the rubber diaphragm in it has gone hard over the years
i tried winding it right in and out a few times, made no difference.
I wasn't going to let that stop me try tigging for the first time ever tho, it's taken 2 weeks to get all the stuff ready since the welder arrived, i ground a point on a 1.6mm tungsten and sat at my bench, got in position and pressed the trigger, wow, tig welding really is gentle compared to mig welding,
I'll admit i didnt even wipe the piece of steel down, i knew i wouldn't get far with the regulator pulsing and groaning, but i wanted to draw a very short line at least.
Top one is the first one, no filler, thought i'd try adding filler next, just to see what the hand movements are i need to perfect.
The bottom line, i tried turning the regulator up to see if the pulsing and groaning stopped, but it didnt, i just got the sound of an oxy torch when welding.
But i've started my journey into learning to tig weld
Put the peashooter on the cup and pulled the trigger, wound the regulator knob out till it was showing about 10 LPM... and the regulator is making a creaking groaning noises, and pulsing the gas
I can only guess that the rubber diaphragm in it has gone hard over the years
i tried winding it right in and out a few times, made no difference.I wasn't going to let that stop me try tigging for the first time ever tho, it's taken 2 weeks to get all the stuff ready since the welder arrived, i ground a point on a 1.6mm tungsten and sat at my bench, got in position and pressed the trigger, wow, tig welding really is gentle compared to mig welding,
I'll admit i didnt even wipe the piece of steel down, i knew i wouldn't get far with the regulator pulsing and groaning, but i wanted to draw a very short line at least.
Top one is the first one, no filler, thought i'd try adding filler next, just to see what the hand movements are i need to perfect.
The bottom line, i tried turning the regulator up to see if the pulsing and groaning stopped, but it didnt, i just got the sound of an oxy torch when welding.
But i've started my journey into learning to tig weld
use a small piece of windscreen washer tube slipped over the barb and the bigger hose on top and get a proper jubillee clip. You'll get both from a motor spares shop for pence.
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I did think about using something to pack out the connection, but i managed to order some proper sized hose (that double walled stuff with criss cross string reinforcement in it) fairly fast off amazon,
But it was all for nowt... as the regulator has time expired it seems, ~17 years sat in a toolbox does not do them any good. i guess the rubber diaphragms gone hard, like the diaphragms for accelerator pumps in carburettors dries out and goes rock hard over time.
But it was all for nowt... as the regulator has time expired it seems, ~17 years sat in a toolbox does not do them any good. i guess the rubber diaphragms gone hard, like the diaphragms for accelerator pumps in carburettors dries out and goes rock hard over time.
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Gaaaaah! if i had enough hair, i'd pull it out.
Ordered a new regulator, a starparts (wilkinson star) / GTech 2 stage, 2 gauge argon regulator.
https://www.sitebox.ltd.uk/gtech-two-stage-2-gauge-argon-regulator-300-bar-oTSARG2G
This was the cheapest i could find it @ £63 with next day delivery.
Connected it up, it flows gas for a second then stops, no amount of adjusting the outlet pressure knob will let anymore gas flow, if i release the pressure on the high side (unscrewing the cylinder connector nut a bit then tightening it again) and open the cylinder cock again, it will let a small amount of gas flow then stop again.
It's like it's triggering an excess flow valve or something, yet the most i got on the output gauge is 4 bar before it stops, tried the output knob in all positions, it just won't flow
Sod it, i'm going to make something out of wood today
Ordered a new regulator, a starparts (wilkinson star) / GTech 2 stage, 2 gauge argon regulator.
https://www.sitebox.ltd.uk/gtech-two-stage-2-gauge-argon-regulator-300-bar-oTSARG2G
This was the cheapest i could find it @ £63 with next day delivery.
Connected it up, it flows gas for a second then stops, no amount of adjusting the outlet pressure knob will let anymore gas flow, if i release the pressure on the high side (unscrewing the cylinder connector nut a bit then tightening it again) and open the cylinder cock again, it will let a small amount of gas flow then stop again.
It's like it's triggering an excess flow valve or something, yet the most i got on the output gauge is 4 bar before it stops, tried the output knob in all positions, it just won't flow
Sod it, i'm going to make something out of wood today
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@Gazz292 Hate to be the bearer of bad news but TBWS offer a two stage regulator for £35.10 plus vat and delivery...
https://www.tbws.co.uk/shop/argon-and-argon-mix-welding-regulator-two-stage/
https://www.tbws.co.uk/shop/argon-and-argon-mix-welding-regulator-two-stage/
Ordered a new regulator, a starparts (wilkinson star) / GTech 2 stage, 2 gauge argon regulator.
https://www.sitebox.ltd.uk/gtech-two-stage-2-gauge-argon-regulator-300-bar-oTSARG2G
It's like it's triggering an excess flow valve or something, yet the most i got on the output gauge is 4 bar before it stops, tried the output knob in all positions, it just won't flow
The data-sheet for that regulator has models that have a max outlet pressure of 4 bar. Maybe there was a mix up?
https://www.sitebox.ltd.uk/docs/wilkinsonstar/pdf/TSARG2G.pdf
