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Found this Imp on a shelf in the wash house, hadn’t really clocked it before, looks very lightly used, should clean up nicely.
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That's a nice find.
They seem to go for silly money nowadays.
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Luck of the aardvark ! That's a nice one for a fiver.
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Not a Record catalogue, however there are a few Record vices in the 1971 B&H Catalogue.Does anyone have a RECORD catalogue later than 1963... I would love to have a copy????
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There is a french Record Marples Tools catalogue from 1984 available here https://archive.org/details/RecordMarplesCatalogue
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Super link CwazyWabbit - I downloaded that one then searched for Record with some success with French language versions from Canada... then searched for C J Hampton and hit goldmine...
Following on with the discussion about the change from the bulbous hub main screw to the flat hub on the type 23 - 26 series vice, as the 1963 cat showed bulbous and the 1967 cat shows flat the change clearly happened between 1963-1966/7 (Why maybe 1966 - to produce a catalogue takes probably 6 months - I know from experience).
So Craig-SM's quote from internet sources of 1966 was probably very spot on!
Also interesting is that this new download of the 1967 catalaogue shows every single Record vice with the flat hub!
So the 1966 date of change to flat hub was for all vice series except the 00 - 8 which dates back at least until 1935.
Should help some in dating old vice.
I'm still downloading the balance of the catalogues.... maybe more info later.
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This is a really interesting database - tools catalogues from Canada/USA/UK/Europe/Australia
https://archive.org/details/internationaltoolcataloglibrary
https://archive.org/details/internationaltoolcataloglibrary
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I love archive.org, it's an amazing resource. I found it interesting to see that some of my catalogue scans had found their way onto their.
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Not creeping.... but well done Cwazy, were it not for people taking their own time to do these scans we would not have such a resource for our futures. Very well done mate.I love archive.org, it's an amazing resource. I found it interesting to see that some of my catalogue scans had found their way onto their.
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Lol, no problem, I find it's easier than continually getting the books off of the shelf.... and results in less wear and tear on them I should really get set up again and do some of the machinery ones I have.
I should really get set up again and do some of the machinery ones I have.
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And as a turn-off, another copy from my cabinet of horrors:
The particularly sad thing about it is that it is a genuine Meyer&Weichelt from before (the end of) WWII.
A nice weekend to all
Carsten
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I picked up these old parkinson vice stands at auction recently.
They appear to be a No1, No2 & a No 4, does anyone know what a No3 looks like?
I am wondering if they are actually 1,2&3 and the No4 shown on the catalogue image is a development of the No3 design with a round pillar.
I am told the No 3/4? predates 1929 because of a brass Thomas Robinson (Rochdale) machine number lable which was fixed to the base and removed by an employe of the auction so he could hang it on his wall.
Thanks
They appear to be a No1, No2 & a No 4, does anyone know what a No3 looks like?
I am wondering if they are actually 1,2&3 and the No4 shown on the catalogue image is a development of the No3 design with a round pillar.
I am told the No 3/4? predates 1929 because of a brass Thomas Robinson (Rochdale) machine number lable which was fixed to the base and removed by an employe of the auction so he could hang it on his wall.
Thanks
Hello welcome and they are utterly fabulous !
Is there any chance of more detailed close up pictures ?
I am green with envy !
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They look amazing. That's museum pieces... 
Would certainly agree that the 1940 Parky cat shows a round central stanchion rather than the more ornate (and more difficult to manufacture) one you purchased, so yes that could be a number 3 maybe. I don't have a Parky cat other than the 1940 one. I wonder if the Hawley Tool collection may have one. I am waiting for them to come back to me about allowing copying of their archive vice catalogues. See email reply below when I asked about any Paramo (Parramore) catalogues they held.
Great to see they have so many Paramo catalogues!
I have just emailed her back asking for news and also asking what catalogues they have of
Would certainly agree that the 1940 Parky cat shows a round central stanchion rather than the more ornate (and more difficult to manufacture) one you purchased, so yes that could be a number 3 maybe. I don't have a Parky cat other than the 1940 one. I wonder if the Hawley Tool collection may have one. I am waiting for them to come back to me about allowing copying of their archive vice catalogues. See email reply below when I asked about any Paramo (Parramore) catalogues they held.
Great to see they have so many Paramo catalogues!
I have just emailed her back asking for news and also asking what catalogues they have of
- Parkinson (J W Parkinson and Son (Shipley) Limited)
- Woden (The Steel Nut & Joseph Hampton Ltd of Wolverhampton)
- Record (C. & J. Hampton of Sheffield)
- Fortis (Fortis Engineering of Coventry)
- Rededa (Charles Neil & Co. of Sheffield)
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Great.
I also have the adjustable height version, with rounded triangular column as yours, and I'd agree it must be an earlier model 3. I have a Parkinson's Perfect Vice (yes, spelling and punctuation like that) static of two part casting, of about 1890, size 9 mounted on it (pic earlier on this thread) - to me it has a sculptural as well as functional quality (gie o'er, mester, it's a tool).
Interestingly also, as yours, both vice and stand were from separate factory clearances not far from their birthplace in Shipley.
Did you get the vices 'on board'?
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Those stands must be pretty sturdy judging by the state of the vice handles....
I'm awaiting this with much interest !They look amazing. That's museum pieces...
Would certainly agree that the 1940 Parky cat shows a round central stanchion rather than the more ornate (and more difficult to manufacture) one you purchased, so yes that could be a number 3 maybe. I don't have a Parky cat other than the 1940 one. I wonder if the Hawley Tool collection may have one. I am waiting for them to come back to me about allowing copying of their archive vice catalogues. See email reply below when I asked about any Paramo (Parramore) catalogues they held.
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Great to see they have so many Paramo catalogues!
I have just emailed her back asking for news and also asking what catalogues they have of
I'll let all know what I get back.
- Parkinson (J W Parkinson and Son (Shipley) Limited)
- Woden (The Steel Nut & Joseph Hampton Ltd of Wolverhampton)
- Record (C. & J. Hampton of Sheffield)
- Fortis (Fortis Engineering of Coventry)
- Rededa (Charles Neil & Co. of Sheffield)
Well done
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