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Yay,
I immediately went to look at the wonder thing and what do I discover .... I already own exactly this model ...
... it is the first time this happends here ... feels good ....
Carsten
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CwazyWabbit
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Not sure if that is a small spray can, but it makes the vice look larger than the one I have......Yay,
I immediately went to look at the wonder thing and what do I discover .... I already own exactly this model ...
... it is the first time this happends here ... feels good ....
Carsten
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I checked directly: On my specimen, the stationary jaw is pretty much 3" wide.
But this seller is really not very clever:
Now he already
a) has this special vice for holding non-rectangular workpieces and
b) takes a round object for exemplary clamping, but does not use the corresponding counter jaw even once.
In addition, he
c) takes a vessel whose size cannot be estimated ... although this could again be intentional to make the small one appear larger ...
Carsten
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You are right, there is nothing to judge size with, even the ratchet he is using to open/close the vice could be 1/4", 3/8", or 1/2".
And what a missed opportunity with a chance to show off the clamping ability!
And what a missed opportunity with a chance to show off the clamping ability!
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One thing I always ask for if it is not shown in the photos, is a top view of the vice with the jaws fully open.
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..... especially on a drill vice!
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HEADS UP !
There is a Dohm Wilson milling / drilling vice for odd shapes on the bay of evil. Item # 234 882 766 970 . Worth a look, and has a reasonable buy it now price.
Usual disclaimer, nothing to do with me; I need a another vice like a hole in the head.
Did anyone check his other items? Numerous vices listed, so looks he buys, reburb's [to a degree] and resells?
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Not anything special but I've had this vice for about 12 years ish.
It takes a serious beating. Such as using a lump hammer to tighten the handle and bashing car sheetmetal sections in it to fold and shape them.
Despite this it is still in perfect working order. (My last vice cracked after a couple years use)
With my new Anvil I'll try not to continue the abuse on this vice! I didn't notice before it has a pipe holder grove in it too. Base also rotates which is handy.
It takes a serious beating. Such as using a lump hammer to tighten the handle and bashing car sheetmetal sections in it to fold and shape them.
Despite this it is still in perfect working order. (My last vice cracked after a couple years use)
With my new Anvil I'll try not to continue the abuse on this vice! I didn't notice before it has a pipe holder grove in it too. Base also rotates which is handy.
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The cabinet its on looks quite stout. It reminds me of an old safe.
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bought these today, £15.00 the lot, was I done? parallel pliers with a groove, for lockwire? Record 00 vice as new, may find a place for that in my hobby van, strange setting pliers, may have come with BT bits?
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Athol vices are quite highly regarded in the USA - evolved into the Starrett vice, thought by many to be the best of all big American bench vices (vises).
Not many Athols imported to UK so I was lucky to find a biggish one for peanuts just as lockdown was beginning. Needs a fettle.
A few days ago I came across quite a different Athol - and bought it because it features a quick release which seems to have been patented in the 1870s before the UK QR patents of Smith & Marks or Wilson Riley (both late 1877) which became the Syer and the Entwistle & Kenyon (later Sheldon (?) with 1880 US patent). The Parkinson's QR patent which eventually swept all before it, was 1884.
It seems Athol Machine Co Mass, started in vice making with the patented (1871?) Simpson vice - just a small clamp-on table-top type - not that impressive, but with a QR version. See pix.
The 3rd pic shows the vice nut - well forward of the usual position - and how the screw can lift off the nut (with the whole of the dynamic jaw, pivoting at the rear of same) and be dropped down onto it at the desired position.
Given the dates, I wonder if one of these made it to the Bradford region to influence their inventions? The two key features that re-appear in the J Parkinson patent are the idea of the half-nut and the use of a buttress thread (rather primitive version in the case of the Athol-Simpson). Parkinson added the all-important spring action.
I must say I don't quite see why a little clamp-on (this is the largest of 3 sizes) needs a QR, and the action means an annoying drop of the dynamic jaw when you position it, also that there's a limit to opening length -- but it does work, even after a century plus.
In the 20's Rededa patented a similar mech for the smallest of their wood-working vices, but as the whole jaw doesn't move, it's more useable.
Not many Athols imported to UK so I was lucky to find a biggish one for peanuts just as lockdown was beginning. Needs a fettle.
A few days ago I came across quite a different Athol - and bought it because it features a quick release which seems to have been patented in the 1870s before the UK QR patents of Smith & Marks or Wilson Riley (both late 1877) which became the Syer and the Entwistle & Kenyon (later Sheldon (?) with 1880 US patent). The Parkinson's QR patent which eventually swept all before it, was 1884.
It seems Athol Machine Co Mass, started in vice making with the patented (1871?) Simpson vice - just a small clamp-on table-top type - not that impressive, but with a QR version. See pix.
The 3rd pic shows the vice nut - well forward of the usual position - and how the screw can lift off the nut (with the whole of the dynamic jaw, pivoting at the rear of same) and be dropped down onto it at the desired position.
Given the dates, I wonder if one of these made it to the Bradford region to influence their inventions? The two key features that re-appear in the J Parkinson patent are the idea of the half-nut and the use of a buttress thread (rather primitive version in the case of the Athol-Simpson). Parkinson added the all-important spring action.
I must say I don't quite see why a little clamp-on (this is the largest of 3 sizes) needs a QR, and the action means an annoying drop of the dynamic jaw when you position it, also that there's a limit to opening length -- but it does work, even after a century plus.
In the 20's Rededa patented a similar mech for the smallest of their wood-working vices, but as the whole jaw doesn't move, it's more useable.
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They're for cutting something. I just can't remember where I've seen them in use before.
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They look a bit like nibblers used to cut ceramic tiles, and I'm sure I've seen sheet metal workers using something like them too. . The middle pliers are same/similar to the ones we used to get in RN tool sets. I could never get on with them.
Love the mug, I could do with one of those.
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I also have the sign in the kitchen
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Love it. Don't know about you, but I keep being told, 'You're at home all day, if you get bored you could just......' I worked 45 years to do what I want all day while 'erindooors is working.
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Next best thing compared to a Lambco bespoke 10" jaw vice.
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Could have sworn you said you were not buying any more vices Danny ..........
I have a 35P as my main vice - the P indicating Plain Screw.... but yours has the 35p on the slide, but is a QR - so shouldn't it just have "35" on the sliding jaw?
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Could have sworn you said you were not buying any more vices Danny ..........
whaaa,,,,, I never did, or did I??
surely that was arc -- and then he goes and buys one of the buys of the year (Fortis on stand)
Maybe I said I shouldn't - diff'rnt ting altogether --- anyways I'm only 75 so no need to declutter for heirs quite yet, and the lifting of the big buggers is a good workout (if gardening is 'green gym' is cast iron handling 'rust gym'?)
