Never seen a swivel base like that, photo please if you could of the base
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Highly unlikely that your grand dad would have done any metal work as complex as making a vice. School leaving age was 14 back then and as long as us proles could read, write and be numerate then that was enough. It wasn't until the 1944 Education Act when the two tier system was set up to provide the nation with workers and managers. Even then metal work was not always taught. At my school in the 70's much of the equipment went unused due to lack of instructors/teachers. Judging by my son's secondary school DT workshops the lathes and mills never seem to have been used and most projects are made from jelutong or plastic.
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photo wld be nice, but also see cwazywabbit's dropbox Parky catalogue
Parkinson had at least 3 swivel variants, ea quite diff - early 'off-centre' vlarge disc on disc, the conic as here and a later one more like other makers - the first 2 not common
as good if not better, my paramo 51 is a work of art, imo better than the record 52 1/2 equivalent,
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Hello, and welcome to the forum.
I've never had a Paramo, so will yield to others with more knowledge. But most older vices are better than any of the newer fodder from the far east.
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I restored a Paramo 5 and it was a good little vice, nice casting and finished better than any Record I've come across. My brother has it now and nicely standing up to his abuse
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I made a collection of the 00 (some 0) sizes (2.25 and 2.5 in wide jaws) of standard UK bench vices and I have to say the Paramo Hi-Duty 00 is probably by a whisker the best made. (For some reason, maybe because they go back farther than the others, Parkinson Handy 00 is my fave)
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Have a look at Fisher Norris chain vises, these were a similar design.
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From That to this.
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V Interesting pair of vices --- the swivel Phoenix 8/0 shares some looks with Chinese vices of the better quality, but also German/Swiss types
The Thos Ellin does look like some Marples, but I think Marples probably always bought in their vices or at least shared design. The Parkinson Handy type was not as well protected by patent etc as their 'Perfect' quick release vices but they did produce a Handy with built in anvil which was covered by Registered Design 94546 and then 'improved' (version like yours) 689821 - early 20th cent - I'd guess this was either after that design ran out, under licence or bought in. A scarce find, whatever (what width jaws?) and I've certainly never seen the brass label with all three trade marks - Ellin, Domino, and the best known, longest surviving, Footprint - a quality Sheffield maker.
oh, i was under the impression marples made their own vices, ive posted an identical vice a few months ago known as the marples "eclipse" 3 inch, did they source out this foundry work?
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firstly, the 689821 No I gave was wrong ( a different Handy) - apologies - they did register a vice like yours, with anvil but a two casting static, about 1900, but the later vices like yours are slightly different and may not be Parky - anyone know for sure?
Marples, like Ward and Payne, were major edge tool makers and had a huge Sheffield catalogue, including own brand vices (mostly small) but, unlike chisels, etc etc, I doubt they made vices in-house -- again, - anyone know for sure??
sorry for any misinfo
i know a couple of the marples and goodell pratt vices are exactly the same, maybe marples imported the goodell pratt and put a sticker on it
thanks for the info danny
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Would that be the same Footprint that made/makes pliers, tin snips, probably other hand tools too? But I only remember my snips being made by Footprint.
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the same - and I think one of the few still going
at least were v recently
