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Lathes look great when they have been refurbished. A lick of paint and metal components are oiled . it's why I never repainted mine.
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Wasnt much paint left on my saddle and tailstock so swayed my decision.
Glad I went for the full stripdown.
Given me a better understanding of my lathe.
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Totally agree. If ever there is a fault, that intimate knowledge of the machine allows you to quickly dismantle and gain access. Plus it’s fun! There was a lot of paint left on mine but it wasn’t bonded to the primer anymore, the linbide scraper pulled off chips easily. I’m leaving the good primer and filler as it’s virtually part of the casting. If I can get mine looking as good as yours, I will be a happy man! I think unless you’ve restored a machine it’s difficult to fathom the amount of time you’ll spend to start from getting back to bare metal and re-painting it all and getting it into working order once more.
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Definitely mate. Your machine looks great.
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Space or lack of was my biggest enemy.
2 weeks solid and space would have seen it finished.
Took hours to sus getting the apron off initially. I could have the lathe in bits in an hour now if needed.
Currently eyeing up a screwcutting gearbox to modify and fit.
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A seized spline shaft which led to the complete dismantling of the gearbox was what set me back months. Helpful when people post on forums saying they've done it but not how they did it! About to post another bed update, really pleased with progress atm
You say the model m doesn't have a gearbox but on 27 th sept you said you opened the gearbox and got a surprise. It does indeed have a gearbox although the ratio is fixed.
It is this box that should be oil filled.
If you look at the black model m mk2 on the lathes.co.uk site you'll see what a difference properly cleaning the unpainted areas makes. A lot easier to do than all the work involved in repainting.
It is this box that should be oil filled.
If you look at the black model m mk2 on the lathes.co.uk site you'll see what a difference properly cleaning the unpainted areas makes. A lot easier to do than all the work involved in repainting.
The green lathe is identical to one of mine. Underneath the carriage (which you can't see in the pics) the halfnut mechanism is different on your lathe and indeed from all three of mine hence likely early as yours has the same electrical switchgear as the black and white pic. I'll post a pic later. The gib handles are identical on the black and white pic and the green lathe at lathes.co but I have a later mk 1 that has knurled brass knobs on the gib strips and yes they are original. The earlier lever allows easier locking of one gib strip but you have to use a screwdriver to lock the other one.
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I believe he was referring to a full screw cutting gearbox, which his lathe does not have. Robin has spoken of grafting one to his lathe in order to gain more flexibility with its operation.
I don’t know if it’s just me, but your tone is a bit snarky... it’s his machine, it’s working well, and he’s turning out good work on it, so why the hang up on it not being pretty... I know messages can often be misconstrued though, so no intent of malice here.
I don’t know if it’s just me, but your tone is a bit snarky... it’s his machine, it’s working well, and he’s turning out good work on it, so why the hang up on it not being pretty... I know messages can often be misconstrued though, so no intent of malice here.
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The point is that he was saying I was making a mistake referring to the gearbox when he himself referred to the very same part as a gearbox. He was not referring to a screwcutting gearbox if you bother to read the post of 27th sept.
If you think I was being critical you're wrong. I think he's done a great job. But if one takes the trouble to do a full repaint which is after all to make it look pretty why not finish the job and clean off the fine surface rust?
In fact the rust is far more important than paint as far as practicality is concerned. When you have a machine with unrusted surfaces you're much more likely to oil it every time you use it and wipe it down with an oiled rag to keep it that way.
The point is that he was saying I was making a mistake referring to the gearbox when he himself referred to the very same part as a gearbox. He was not referring to a screwcutting gearbox if you bother to read the post of 27th sept.
If you think I was being critical you're wrong. I think he's done a great job. But if one takes the trouble to do a full repaint which is after all to make it look pretty why not finish the job and clean off the fine surface rust?
In fact the rust is far more important than paint as far as practicality is concerned. When you have a machine with unrusted surfaces you're much more likely to oil it every time you use it and wipe it down with an oiled rag to keep it that way.
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I’ve read and follow the entire thread. Perhaps you might have noted my correspondence throughout.
The way I see it is the man has a lathe which is working and he likes using. You have an opinion (which may be just and valid) that it should be cleaner. The man disagrees and continues using his machine to turn good work. What’s the problem?
The way I see it is the man has a lathe which is working and he likes using. You have an opinion (which may be just and valid) that it should be cleaner. The man disagrees and continues using his machine to turn good work. What’s the problem?
If you've read the thread then you'll know that he was not talking about a thread cutting geabox as you claimed. You're wrong but won't admit it.
If he wants to use the lathe as it is I have absolutely no problem with that at all. Where did I say that I did ? I made a suggestion. Am I to be taken to task for that? Did I ever say anything critical? The only person that's being critical is you.
If he wants to use the lathe as it is I have absolutely no problem with that at all. Where did I say that I did ? I made a suggestion. Am I to be taken to task for that? Did I ever say anything critical? The only person that's being critical is you.
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That is utterly irrelevant dieselkid because I specifically referred you to his post of 27th September which shows the gearbox under the headstock complete with photo. He calls it a gearbox himself. You have jumped to the conclusion that I was referring to this most recent part of the thread but I was not. I was replying to elusivemite saying to me that there must be some mistake on my description of the model m as having a gearbox but you decided to throw in your twopenneth when you didn't know what you were talking about and never took the trouble to look at the post of 27 th september. You're wrong - admit it.
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Put your handbags away folks and play nicely or find you have difficulty posting in this thread altogether...thanks 
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Im quite happy to stand corrected if incorrect.
Opened up the gearbox (reduction box, dog box. whatever) to double check my previous conclusions.
3 nipples on the rear of the bed. 2 piped through copper to the bushings inside the box and the third spraying directly onto the gears. No other fill points.
Either im expected to pump 3 or 4 full oilers down the nipple one after the other to fill the sump or a few squirts on the gears prior to running and occasionally during running is enough.
As it hasn't run for two weeks or more and the gears are well coated il continue as I am.
Your more than welcome to come and polish my bare metal parts if you wish.
I dont have free time for cosmetic polishing.
As stated its now in good working order.
I didn't buy it to look at. I bought it to use.
Please enlighten me. Have I missed a fill point?
And yes I was referring to a screwcutting gearbox. The reduction box didnt evee cross my mind.
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Perhaps it shows as such in the photos. Theres a lot of discoloration on the metal but the only surface rust still present is in the pitting on the ball handles and levers which I plan on remaking In the future and the spindle cog side(its on my list.)
Nothing critical has surface rust.
I rescued it from a damp barn after sitting for 3 years.
Be interested to see pictures of the halfnut changes.
Have noticed the saddle gib lock isnt great and tend to use a bar between the apron and tailstock when required.
Il look into a second lever for the rhs.
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Noticed an issue when refitting the shelves.
Some point after fitting the motor part of the lower mount has cracked.
Looked fine during the stripdown but must have had a fracture in it.
Not urgent but need to fab a new one soon.
Some point after fitting the motor part of the lower mount has cracked.
Looked fine during the stripdown but must have had a fracture in it.
Not urgent but need to fab a new one soon.
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@spencer. Images above.
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Not the only one who likes blue on an S&B dont like the price mind even for a mk2
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SMART-AN...599882?hash=item261a83c28a:g:jz8AAOSwCcBctvYL
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SMART-AN...599882?hash=item261a83c28a:g:jz8AAOSwCcBctvYL
