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Rannsachair
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The influence of this site again, eBay bargain at £24
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Good kit. My BIL gave me one 25yrs ago. Issued to the R.E.M.E. Classed as 'field kit' it was destined for the bin, all because a drill bit was missing.
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Full operational capability acquired today.
While your vice developers were busy inventing new forms of vices, ours were not entirely idle either:
Task description: To create a vice to clamp round workpieces of as large a diameter range as possible safely for machining.
The construction number - much more likely than a year of manufacture - the last two digits of which we will encounter again on every machined part of the vice.
Several channels are built into the cast body for transporting lubrication to all the moving joints.
The oil holes ("Oel") are easily accessible and closed with grub screws; after filling and re-closing, the screw pushes the oil to the lubrication points.
The clamping range of round material from 10-80mm is already quite decent, but what really impresses me about the piece is the enormous clamping force with minimal use of manual force and yet high crank speed - without any difference in the holding security between large or small diameters.
A clumsy brute, who had the thing in his hands before me and didn't understand it, obviously had difficulty getting the double-V block out.
He seems to have knocked it out horizontally with a hammer, shearing off the dowel pin and leaving marks with the splinters and chunks.
It came to me blocked and hardly operable.
All affected surfaces are smooshy again without machine use, chunks removed, missing part inserted and now effortlessly completely serviceable.
Again, this sweetheart came to me without a crank, but I found one in my stock:
- The spindle on the vice is filed unevenly round, drilled through crookedly and this hole is noodled out from being driven with something thin.
- My crank has a square and I wanted to be able to take it off and have several positions to put it on if possible:
With a pin in the bore, the two protruding ends of which have rounded tips, the inner square of the crank has four positions in its diagonals in which it can easily be put on and taken off again and securely drives the threaded spindle.
And it smiles!
Carsten
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While your vice developers were busy inventing new forms of vices, ours were not entirely idle either:
Task description: To create a vice to clamp round workpieces of as large a diameter range as possible safely for machining.
The construction number - much more likely than a year of manufacture - the last two digits of which we will encounter again on every machined part of the vice.
Several channels are built into the cast body for transporting lubrication to all the moving joints.
The oil holes ("Oel") are easily accessible and closed with grub screws; after filling and re-closing, the screw pushes the oil to the lubrication points.
The clamping range of round material from 10-80mm is already quite decent, but what really impresses me about the piece is the enormous clamping force with minimal use of manual force and yet high crank speed - without any difference in the holding security between large or small diameters.
A clumsy brute, who had the thing in his hands before me and didn't understand it, obviously had difficulty getting the double-V block out.
He seems to have knocked it out horizontally with a hammer, shearing off the dowel pin and leaving marks with the splinters and chunks.
It came to me blocked and hardly operable.
All affected surfaces are smooshy again without machine use, chunks removed, missing part inserted and now effortlessly completely serviceable.
Again, this sweetheart came to me without a crank, but I found one in my stock:
- The spindle on the vice is filed unevenly round, drilled through crookedly and this hole is noodled out from being driven with something thin.
- My crank has a square and I wanted to be able to take it off and have several positions to put it on if possible:
With a pin in the bore, the two protruding ends of which have rounded tips, the inner square of the crank has four positions in its diagonals in which it can easily be put on and taken off again and securely drives the threaded spindle.
And it smiles!
Carsten
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Being too lazy to finish the ones I started turning, bought these cheap amazon boring bar sleeves. Intending to use fewer tool holders for bars, these should be quick to swap.
I think they are going back, the longest is 100mm long but the 8mm bore is only 32mm of that before it opens up! Unsure why its threaded.
Shorter ones are about 70mm long with 38mm the correct bore.
I think they are intended for very short micro boring bars, not the long solid carbide ones Im using!
The ones I turned are ready apart from no flats or grub screws, which is a pain to do on the lathe.
I think they are going back, the longest is 100mm long but the 8mm bore is only 32mm of that before it opens up! Unsure why its threaded.
Shorter ones are about 70mm long with 38mm the correct bore.
I think they are intended for very short micro boring bars, not the long solid carbide ones Im using!
The ones I turned are ready apart from no flats or grub screws, which is a pain to do on the lathe.
@25.4_mechanic ,good find,that’s an extremely desirable and practical vice,never seen one,wonderful if us brits ever made one?
So jealous.
So jealous.
25.4_mechanic
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How nice you should say that, Nick, thanks.
I've neither seen one like this - I had to have it
You Brits made a much greater variety of vices, pure coincidence if none close to this one came out - but I'm extremly proud to have got(ten) this one
Carsten
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My other half was doing a day's leatherwork course in Banbury yesterday. We stayed the night (and had a lovely Japanese meal) and then I had the day to amuse myself while she did the course. At the risk of offending anyone from that area, it's not exactly my favourite part of the world and I was casting around for ideas of what to do.
Turns out there's a good book shop and also a big junk shop in nearby Brackley so I headed over there for a gander.
I'd been idly looking out for a router plane for quite a while. I've got the Veritas one already and also a wooden one I made myself, so I didn't really need another one, but there have been a few times it would have been handy to have them left on different settings and switch between them without readjusting. I'd been watching ebay for a while, but they tend to go for the best part of a ton and I couldn't justify that to myself. I'd also kept my eye out for them in antique shops, but they never seemed to appear.
Anyway, turns out Brackley Antiques Cellar had a slightly shabby Record 71, with one cutter, the depth stop and the fence, for £35 and I couldn't resist it. I would have preferred the Stanley (for no good reason) and more cutters, but it seemed to be too good an opportunity to miss.
That rust doesn't seem to be very deep, so should be fairly straightforward to sort out.
I also picked up a lovely sundial compass from Brackley (and was very tempted by quite a few of the other instruments on the same stall).
Buoyed by the success and lacking anything else to do with my day, I decided that Mickleton isn't that far away and Mickleton is home of my favourite junk shop of all (from which my Stanley #55 originated, and one of the few that seem to have metalworking tools reasonably often). Off I trotted and when I arrived I was somewhat taken aback to find this, again at a bargain price:
Two router planes turning up in junk shops in one day, what were the odds?! Okay, so I really didn't need two more router planes, but that Stanley is lovely, even if it is missing the fence.
I figure I can clean the Record one up and stick it on ebay and there's every chance it'll sell for enough to cover a substantial proportion of the cost of both the Record and the Stanley.
Thing is, if I go to Mickleton Antiques Centre, I'm never likely to come out with just one thing. Did I need another spokeshave? Maybe?
Did I need this (lathing?) hatchet? Definitely not, but I've fancied trying shaping wood with an axe or hatchet and it'll be fun to play with.
Quite a nice looking egg beater too...
Must stay away from junk shops for a bit...
Turns out there's a good book shop and also a big junk shop in nearby Brackley so I headed over there for a gander.
I'd been idly looking out for a router plane for quite a while. I've got the Veritas one already and also a wooden one I made myself, so I didn't really need another one, but there have been a few times it would have been handy to have them left on different settings and switch between them without readjusting. I'd been watching ebay for a while, but they tend to go for the best part of a ton and I couldn't justify that to myself. I'd also kept my eye out for them in antique shops, but they never seemed to appear.
Anyway, turns out Brackley Antiques Cellar had a slightly shabby Record 71, with one cutter, the depth stop and the fence, for £35 and I couldn't resist it. I would have preferred the Stanley (for no good reason) and more cutters, but it seemed to be too good an opportunity to miss.
That rust doesn't seem to be very deep, so should be fairly straightforward to sort out.
I also picked up a lovely sundial compass from Brackley (and was very tempted by quite a few of the other instruments on the same stall).
Buoyed by the success and lacking anything else to do with my day, I decided that Mickleton isn't that far away and Mickleton is home of my favourite junk shop of all (from which my Stanley #55 originated, and one of the few that seem to have metalworking tools reasonably often). Off I trotted and when I arrived I was somewhat taken aback to find this, again at a bargain price:
Two router planes turning up in junk shops in one day, what were the odds?! Okay, so I really didn't need two more router planes, but that Stanley is lovely, even if it is missing the fence.
I figure I can clean the Record one up and stick it on ebay and there's every chance it'll sell for enough to cover a substantial proportion of the cost of both the Record and the Stanley.
Thing is, if I go to Mickleton Antiques Centre, I'm never likely to come out with just one thing. Did I need another spokeshave? Maybe?
Did I need this (lathing?) hatchet? Definitely not, but I've fancied trying shaping wood with an axe or hatchet and it'll be fun to play with.
Quite a nice looking egg beater too...
Must stay away from junk shops for a bit...
25.4_mechanic
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I've always been a tad around the bend and these things just always find me ... After all, one is curious and open-minded towards new things, isn't one?
But it's true, the forum has breathed new life into my craziness, I was almost threatening to become normal ....
Carsten
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Nice indeed, would look good on my Fritz Werner mill!How nice you should say that, Nick, thanks.
I've neither seen one like this - I had to have it
You Brits made a much greater variety of vices, pure coincidence if none close to this one came out - but I'm extremly proud to have got(ten) this one
Carsten
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After a very wet trip out today, I returned home with this project, it should keep me out of trouble (possibly..) for a while, but definitely poor-ish....
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@ajlelectronics is the man for those skimiteersAfter a very wet trip out today, I returned home with this project, it should keep me out of trouble (possibly..
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stand for ...**** packed and waiting to be shipped
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Welcome to the clubAfter a very wet trip out today, I returned home with this project, it should keep me out of trouble (possibly..
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that’s like mine.
Mines a bit chunkier as it’s a BFW after they were moved to India (I think)
Never seen a vice or knew they were a Berliner company so cheers for that post
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I have a roofing hatchet like that one for some reason that I can't think of.
There needs to be a reason?
