More useful in pairs so you'll need to keep an eye out for another one.Yes it's one of those tools you don't need very often at all. Years maybe between uses but when you need it, It'll be great
I was looking at a Vevor one and nearly bought it a couple of weeks back in preparation for lifting my 2 post lift columns onto its bolts eventually but didn't buy it then spotted this USA one cheap so went for it right away after work.
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When they built the shopping centre in Enniskillen they built a nice footbridge across the river Erne to access it. Its only maybe 15ft above the water but someone decided to take a dive of it a few years ago.
So the council extended the sides up with anti climb fencing with very narrow gaps between the rails, turning a nice scenic bridge crossing into a claustrophobic tunnel.
Once you are off the bridge you can walk into the river wherever you want, there's not even a fence. There's even a pier sticking way out to the middle of the river to moor boats.
The Council's insurers will be happy to reject any claim for negligence concerning the footbridge.
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It likely won't stop a determined person, but it's not a waste. If it stops just one jumping, & creating the havoc & resulting chaos which some act like that can cause, then it's worth every penny.
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It's more effort, gives a would-be jumper more time to think, and prevents an impulsive decision. Just like how limiting the number of paracetamol you can buy at once doesn't stop you going to six shops and gathering up a fatal dose, but it's lowered the death rate regardless.
I’ve walked over this bridge when the barriers were like the first pic, you could pretty much just fall over it.
The new ones below are 8ft, inward overhanging and would take some major effort for the average person to get over if they even could. I’d say it’s a huge step to stop someone.
My personal opinion is that it ruins the bridge and the experience for those wanting to be up there for the fun of it but the fact is an alarming number of people these days want to end it all and measures need to be made to stop them. How many £££££s is it an hour to close the motorway when someone is threatening to jump.
There's a great documentary that occasionally crops up on BBC4 about the construction of the M62 in the early 1970's.Well I am not going to start a new thread for this:
Today I acquired a couple of photographs taken from Scammonden bridge over the M62, the first is the view towards Leeds so the traffic (Car Park) is in the Westbound lane:-
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This is the view towards Manchester and the traffic is moving in the Eastbound lane:-
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I parked up and got out to take the pics holding my camera phone between the bars of the new £1.2Million pound plus anti climb fence.
The Council were ordered to act by the coroner following the 32nd death from the bridge in 4 years. More here:
£1m safety fence work at Scammonden Bridge begins
Project to install new barriers is underway after years of claims that nothing could be donewww.examinerlive.co.uk
There is quite a famous video of Fred Dibnah crossing the bridge in his Steam Engine, by sheer chance I happened to be travelling up the M62 on the day at the time and had the opportunity to watch that, so there is another useless bit of trivia.
The bridge at junction 22 that carries the Pennine Way over the carriageway needed 5 miles of scaffolding to construct it, and Scammonden Bridge was apparently the longest "single span non supported" bridge in the world at the time of its construction.
Stott Hall Farm, or "Little House on the Prairie" as it was known on the cb, is the subject of another recurring urban myth which claims that the farmer wouldn't sell his land so they built the carriageways around his farm. The truth is that the land underneath the farm wasn't geologically strong enough so it was safer to leave it and built round it. This myth crops up regularly on faceache, along with the other one about characters in Captain Pugwash called Seaman Stains and Master Bates.
Neither myth is true but it really is incredible how many believe them to be true, in spite of incontrovertible evidence to the contrary.
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I know the place - it has tunnels under the motorway near it.
Stott Hall Farm - Wikipedia
Just past the farm when you're heading the right way is an abnormal load holding area off of the hard shoulder.I know the place - it has tunnels under the motorway near it.
Stott Hall Farm - Wikipedia
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I had the radiator top hose on my elderly Daf let go during the first lock down and managed to limp the wagon into it, I called the office and let them know, then I called it in on 101. When I told the nice lady on the phone where I was she said "OH yes, I can see you". It turns out there's an overhead matrix sign in the dip, just before Scammonden Bridge, and there's a camera on top of it, looking west along the carriageway.
Note to all - be careful what you're doing because the hills have eyes
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Did you try the device? I'm interested how did it go?True but don't forget climbing rope is dynamic and works best over a long distance so a 1m fall tied to a thick branch will be a pretty good test and probably just as sore as using a static rope, I'll prep some ice packs
More testing required but storm has delayed that, first couple body test were successful - did add the bungee system in to soften the fall as only a short length of rope so chickened out on the spine snapping
Plan to try body weight rock loads on a solid anchor next, won't be able to log the force as no load cells unfortunately but can probably guess if I set it up like official uiaa tests.
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Trouble is stopping traffic , investigating the death /was it murder etc etc costs the country a heck of a lot of money not to mention the extra pollution from stopped or very slow crawling traffic .
A few years ago we had the M4 closed locally for over seven hours when a guy jumped of a bridge in front of a n HGV & also hitting passing cars . A few thousand pounds worth of black sticky oily gunge may have deterred the guy from topping himself .
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Load test proving >>>>> drag an empty stoppered blue 200 litre barrel up the tree set it up with a harness , fill it with water from a hosepipe don't climb the tree incase some things drops or breaks suddenly , pull it out the tree on a long rope, lower to ground and drain when done. ??More testing required but storm has delayed that, first couple body test were successful - did add the bungee system in to soften the fall as only a short length of rope so chickened out on the spine snapping
Plan to try body weight rock loads on a solid anchor next, won't be able to log the force as no load cells unfortunately but can probably guess if I set it up like official uiaa tests.
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The old joke about the building site, bucket of bricks and a pulley comes to mind.
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The cost per fatality on the roads is in excess of £2 million. That was in 2020.
www.statista.com
Road accident costs by severity Great Britain 2020 | Statista
Fatal accidents and casualties were significantly more expensive than either serious or slight accidents in the United Kingdom in 2020.
www.statista.com
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That made me realise the need for some form of cure here .The cost per fatality on the roads is in excess of £2 million. That was in 2020.
Road accident costs by severity Great Britain 2020 | Statista
Fatal accidents and casualties were significantly more expensive than either serious or slight accidents in the United Kingdom in 2020.
Three deaths and four other major incidents involving vehicles & property within 200 yards of here this last four years
Alison read out to me a few hours ago that the A48 between Cross Hands roundabout & Pont Abraham start of the M4 round about ( 4 miles or so ) about 127 major road closing incident in two years .
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There are a couple of major "jumping off points" around here and the second there is a radio announcement about a Police Incident in that area you know what happened. I would be the first to agree that spending millions on anti climb anti jump measures is a strain on the public purse I also think of those people who have run over the body of a jumper as they hit the road in front of them, or worse. What or how are they going to cope with this.
What about all of the people they leave behind because first hand experience tells me the utter carnage they cause to people's lives is incalculable. You are not going to stop the determined suicide and that is a fact but there are people out there, thousands of them, who could well be diverted from their course of action and with the right treatment and support could well be major contributors to society in the future.
What about all of the people they leave behind because first hand experience tells me the utter carnage they cause to people's lives is incalculable. You are not going to stop the determined suicide and that is a fact but there are people out there, thousands of them, who could well be diverted from their course of action and with the right treatment and support could well be major contributors to society in the future.
Well I am not going to start a new thread for this:
Today I acquired a couple of photographs taken from Scammonden bridge over the M62, the first is the view towards Leeds so the traffic (Car Park) is in the Westbound lane:-
This is the view towards Manchester and the traffic is moving in the Eastbound lane:-
I parked up and got out to take the pics holding my camera phone between the bars of the new £1.2Million pound plus anti climb fence.
The Council were ordered to act by the coroner following the 32nd death from the bridge in 4 years. More here:
£1m safety fence work at Scammonden Bridge begins
Project to install new barriers is underway after years of claims that nothing could be done
There is quite a famous video of Fred Dibnah crossing the bridge in his Steam Engine, by sheer chance I happened to be travelling up the M62 on the day at the time and had the opportunity to watch that, so there is another useless bit of trivia.
In the days of the old hand rail, I’ve driven over it . . . and that was bad enough . . . so the day I drove under it to see someone riding a horse over it ! The horse, never mind the rider, was braver than me!
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I had a Topweld 140 for years. Eventually it got stolen from my shed and I had to buy an inverter welder.
