Unimog

[Mick Annick]

This is the only "Mog"can afford, right now.


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No longer available and over £100 on eBay last time I looked for one

 

[4String.]

The old saying of never meet your hero’s comes to mind with a mog

40mph and so noisy

I always wanted a forward control 101 but after rebuilding 3 of them I never want one of my own

At the risk of upsetting the “One life, live it” chaps, I knew within minutes of driving a Landrover for the first time that it would also be the last time, and 35 years on, it was!

Can honestly say that I’ve never driven anything that was so uncomfortable, had such bad handling characteristics, or was so ergonomically ill thought out. I can appreciate why farmers and park rangers in Africa have them , but not me. *shudder*

 

[Mick Annick]

4String

You’re right, of course, but when did common sense ever get in the way in these matters? I’ve had several LR’s and loved and hated them all in equal measure. I still hanker after a Unimog too

 

[4String.]

4String

You’re right, of course, but when did common sense ever get in the way in these matters? I’ve had several LR’s and loved and hated them all in equal measure. I still hanker after a Unimog too

Very true.

And as a result of this thread, and eLuSiVeMiTe’s pics of his Sherpa conversion, I’m now thinking about trading my Nissan van in against a slightly bigger van that I can convert to a stealth camper.

 

[eLuSiVeMiTe]

Very true.

And as a result of this thread, and eLuSiVeMiTe’s pics of his Sherpa conversion, I’m now thinking about trading my Nissan van in against a slightly bigger van that I can convert to a stealth camper.

When I replace my current van il do a traffic conversion as a family weekend van. Not necessarily a sleeper but kitchen and cleaning facilities and room to sit out a storm and play games etc.
Wouldn't fancy 5 up sleeping in it.

 

[TechnicAl]

Nope. Still see no mention of overnighting o. Laybys In Your article.

When I was touring about in the van the last thing I wanted was to spend time around other people.
Cornwall and Devon were great for it. Plenty of decent off road laybys.
When. I drove away early doors no one would have known I'd been there. Leave nothing behind.

Carry on to the next days adventure and worry about where to kip later

overnighting....wild camping.....is there a difference........I dont know one way or the other. Personally I wouldnt plan a holiday relying on stopping is lay bys but thats my preference.

 

[eLuSiVeMiTe]

overnighting....wild camping.....is there a difference........I dont know one way or the other. Personally I wouldnt plan a holiday relying on stopping is lay bys but thats my preference.

Indeed. Be a boring world of we were all alike.
Camping and sleeping in a LayBy (lay by the road) are different things.
Judging by there name that was there original intent.
Wasn't exactly a holiday. I was working and exploring and enjoying being single and back in the UK after 9 years away.
Don't do holidays. Waste of time and money.
Rather be doing something productive

 

[bigegg]

overnighting....wild camping.....is there a difference........I dont know one way or the other. Personally I wouldnt plan a holiday relying on stopping is lay bys but thats my preference.

when i was still cycling and before i got married (30 years ago ). my regular "holiday" - practically every week through summer - was to set off cycling somewhere (like the east coast, or the lakes, or northumbria).
cycle until it got dark.
set up my tent at the back of a hedge in a field. then up when it got light, and off again.
15 or 20 trips over 4 years. all done like that.

 

[fizzy]

At the risk of upsetting the “One life, live it” chaps, I knew within minutes of driving a Landrover for the first time that it would also be the last time, and 35 years on, it was!

Can honestly say that I’ve never driven anything that was so uncomfortable, had such bad handling characteristics, or was so ergonomically ill thought out. I can appreciate why farmers and park rangers in Africa have them , but not me. *shudder*

You obviously only drove the old series land rovers. The newer ones were far more civilised - nothing like at all in fact!

 

[stuvy]

I found the d3 compared to a d4 so vastly different

The same goes for d1vd2 d2 v d3

 

[fizzy]

I found the d3 compared to a d4 so vastly different

The same goes for d1vd2 d2 v d3

You are right there!

Disco 3 was wallowy and made me feel sick. Disco 4 much nicer.
Disco 1 was much slower and more agricultural than a Disco 2.

It was a big shock to my system the first time I drove a Series III. Drum brakes - no power steering - loads of levers. But I loved it after a while. Great fun to drive and tough as old boots - no need for silly tread plate on the wings. And when it gets muddy you just hose down the inside and drive off.

 

[owas]

I'm abit of a wimp when it comes to driving my early 110 everyday,
If it still had the NA, no power steering, heater that barely worked ect It would stay a toy.

Ok sound system, carish like gear changes with the slick shift, enough power with the TDI, power steering, propper insulation and heating, comfy seats, ARBs so it handles pretty well ,along with a new steering box so there's no play.
Hell I even have a reversing camera and TPMS

Why bother being uncomfortable?

 

[TechnicAl]

when i was still cycling and before i got married (30 years ago ). my regular "holiday" - practically every week through summer - was to set off cycling somewhere (like the east coast, or the lakes, or northumbria).
cycle until it got dark.
set up my tent at the back of a hedge in a field. then up when it got light, and off again.
15 or 20 trips over 4 years. all done like that.

Dont suppose you ever did a Carry on Camping and ask the farmer for milk....or chose the field with the Bull

 

[TechnicAl]

Indeed. Be a boring world of we were all alike.
Camping and sleeping in a LayBy (lay by the road) are different things.
Judging by there name that was there original intent.
Wasn't exactly a holiday. I was working and exploring and enjoying being single and back in the UK after 9 years away.
Don't do holidays. Waste of time and money.
Rather be doing something productive

I only do holidays these days

Incidentally I read another article that said Trucks parking overnight in lay bys is also illegal but the Police have to turn a blind eye because of the tachograph laws.....how can they move on if they are leagally obliged to stay still......anyway not my cup of tea and I cannot for the life of me understand why anyone would pay tens of thousands for a campervan and then park it up in a lay by.

 

[8ob]

Another subject not touched on here is taxation class, as an ag vehicle the mog can be driven on a car licence. Tax it privately then add a gurt camper body and it will probably need an Lgv mot . It will almost certainly weigh in at over the 3.5 ton car licence limit. ( ok for us old gits )

Bob

 

[eLuSiVeMiTe]

Another subject not touched on here is taxation class, as an ag vehicle the mog can be driven on a car licence. Tax it privately then add a gurt camper body and it will probably need an Lgv mot . It will almost certainly weigh in at over the 3.5 ton car licence limit. ( ok for us old gits )

Bob

If it's legally converted should be class 4
Wish I hadn't given up my mgv when I switched to a UK licence.

 

[Shox Dr]

Another subject not touched on here is taxation class, as an ag vehicle the mog can be driven on a car licence. Tax it privately then add a gurt camper body and it will probably need an Lgv mot . It will almost certainly weigh in at over the 3.5 ton car licence limit. ( ok for us old gits )

Bob

I converted an 14cell ex-crim bus into a 5 sleeper motorhome with a workshop in the rear. It was class 4 MOT as a mini bus so could be driven on a car license, despite it been 8.5t

 

[4String.]

I only do holidays these days

Incidentally I read another article that said Trucks parking overnight in lay bys is also illegal but the Police have to turn a blind eye because of the tachograph laws.....how can they move on if they are leagally obliged to stay still......anyway not my cup of tea and I cannot for the life of me understand why anyone would pay tens of thousands for a campervan and then park it up in a lay by.

However, if the Police feel that an HGV is in a “dangerous” position, they can legally move it on. There’s been a clampdown over the past couple of years regarding foreign trucks who park overnight on the hard shoulder, usually under bridges/gantries on the M25.

And the best one for me is that if a Police Constable, (and in the eyes of the law all Police officers are classed as Constables, for reasons unknown to me), comes across an “abandoned or badly parked HGV with no driver, he can legally break in to it and move it, even if he doesn’t have a valid HGV licence and might never have driven one before!

 

[8ob]

As I said ok for us older gits https://www.gov.uk/driving-motorhome

Mots for campers has recently been changed https://www.ukmotorhomes.net/motorhome-faqs/motorhome-mots

 

[Ruffian]

Another subject not touched on here is taxation class, as an ag vehicle the mog can be driven on a car licence. Tax it privately then add a gurt camper body and it will probably need an Lgv mot . It will almost certainly weigh in at over the 3.5 ton car licence limit. ( ok for us old gits )

Bob

It will be deemed as a heavy class 4 provided there is no room for "freight"
If there is room to add commercial stuff then will be deemed as a dual purpose and come under the appropriate weighted lorry.

Horse boxes and race trucks are a prime example of heavy class 4.

I do think there should be an in between vehicle. Something between a landy and a unimog.
Bang on 3.5tonne but can tow 3.5 also.
PTO if needed and a sensible powerplant,