Warco lathe wiring??

[addjunkie]

First off ring warco and ask them for an instruction book, they are fairly recent machines, if from a school probably not barley been used and wont be that old. Warco technical were quite helpful last time I spoke to them. I suspect the lathe and suds pump will be three phase and the lamp / dro if fitted single. There actually not a bad lathe to be honest, did you get all the bits with them, they are normally supplied with 3 and 4 haws, two steadies etc.

Id aslo suggest a static phase convertor, but if its the two speed motor youll get the lower speeds running fine but higher speeds will be a pain switching the capacitance about for each speed. In which case use an extra motor and go rotary.

Transwave are very helpful with phase convertors. An oversized convertor is best, to allow for the starting current

 

[brightspark]

sorry for all the questions, but can i wire it up wrong in the new plug as there is 3 lives or doesn't it matter?

in the plug it will show the numbers on each pin live one live 2 and live 3 and the 4th neutral 5th pin the earth which will be marked. the 3 lives it doesn't matter which way they are connected in the pins it will only run backwards if there wrong . just swap 2 of the lives and it will run the proper way

 

[powderblast]

in the plug it will show the numbers on each pin live one live 2 and live 3 and the 4th neutral 5th pin the earth which will be marked

ok great thanks i have an understanding on how it works now so i think i should be able to put a plug on them i just didnt know if the live wires matter which live in the socket you put them in because i thought if there in the wrong live you can spin the motor the opposite way or im just overthinking it and it doesnt matter

 

[brightspark]

u can spin the motor opposite way if there wrong but as I said its easy to alter any 2 of them and it will run correct just don't mix the neutral one up

 

[addjunkie]

Running the lathe backwards shouldnt hurt it, if it goes bacwards when you press the forwards button, stop, and swap any two blacks over in the plug.

 

[powderblast]

First off ring warco and ask them for an instruction book, they are fairly recent machines, if from a school probably not barley been used and wont be that old. Warco technical were quite helpful last time I spoke to them. I suspect the lathe and suds pump will be three phase and the lamp / dro if fitted single. There actually not a bad lathe to be honest, did you get all the bits with them, they are normally supplied with 3 and 4 haws, two steadies etc.

Id aslo suggest a static phase convertor, but if its the two speed motor youll get the lower speeds running fine but higher speeds will be a pain switching the capacitance about for each speed. In which case use an extra motor and go rotary.

Transwave are very helpful with phase convertors. An oversized convertor is best, to allow for the starting current

i was going to look at getting one of them clarke pc60 phase converters im hoping i can just stick a plug on the cable and then just run it through one of those boxes without any issues, the reason i mention the clarke converters is because someone was selling the same lathe with one of these converters running it.

i did not get any extras i even to buy tool posts as they wasnt with the machine the guy just took aload of machines from out of a collage so i got nothing just a 3 jaw chuck with them

 

[powderblast]

u can spin the motor opposite way if there wrong but as I said its easy to alter any 2 of them and it will run correct just don't mix the neutral one up

great thanks so if it spins the wrong way just swop any 2 of the 3 lives and this will correct it great

whats thickness 5 core flex cable should i get and whats is the coreect plug that i need please

 

[brightspark]

great thanks so if it spins the wrong way just swop any 2 of the 3 lives and this will correct it great

whats thickness 5 core flex cable should i get and whats is the coreect plug that i need please

u need to see what size plug is on the converter cable size 1.5mm will be fine and easy to wire

 

[powderblast]

im sure this is this the one i need

 

[powderblast]

this is the machine

Clarke PC 60 - 5.5hp Phase Converter

• Adjustable power output to match the requirements of motors up to a max. of 5.5hp
• 230V 1-phase input / 400 - 415V 3-phase output
• Ammeter to indicate incoming 230V current
• Neon switch on unit illuminates when output load is connected
• Max input current: 25 Amps - Input current fuse (supply) 32 Amps
• Durable, corrosion resistant case with powder coated finish
• Dimensions (LWH) 365x255x385mm. Weight approx. 21kg

 

[brightspark]

yes same as mine the plug. that is

 

[WorkshopChris]

https://www.sitebox.ltd.uk/docs/clarke_6012785/pc20_60.pdf
The book says 4 pin but they may of changed spec.

 

[brightspark]

https://www.sitebox.ltd.uk/docs/clarke_6012785/pc20_60.pdf
The book says 4 pin but they may of changed spec.

yes your correct only a 4 pin and no neutral on that unit there is on the transwave

 

[powderblast]

yes your correct only a 4 pin and no neutral on that unit there is on the transwave

which would i be best looking at the clarke unit or the transwave or doesnt it matter do they both do the same job if i was to get the clarke i would need a 4 pin socket and i just dont wire up the neutral only the 3 lives and the earth

 

[brightspark]

which would i be best looking at the clarke unit or the transwave or doesnt it matter do they both do the same job if i was to get the clarke i would need a 4 pin socket and i just dont wire up the neutral only the 3 lives and the earth

u would have to ask warco if the neutral is needed if u go for the Clarke one it may operate a transformer in machine for a contactor

 

[WorkshopChris]

I like transwave kit but they keep swapping the pair for the contactors between different units, so you always need to download the manual to look, they could put a sticker on the front.
If you went for a transwave you would have a neutral capability, if you should need it.

 

[powderblast]

I like transwave kit but they keep swapping the pair for the contactors between different units, so you always need to download the manual to look, they could put a sticker on the front.
If you went for a transwave you would have a neutral capability, if you should need it.

ok i may be best contacting transwave and seeing what unit they recommend for me to use

 

[WorkshopChris]

ok i may be best contacting transwave and seeing what unit they recommend for me to use

Always worth contacting them they occasionally have recon units if people have upgraded.

 

[addjunkie]

Also as you manufacture one of the three phase on a convertor you need to make sure that isnt the one that holds your start realys in!

And the guy you bought the lathe off is probably selling all the accessories off too if you ask him

You will also need a 32 amp supply to run your convertor, the big round blue plug, normally wired directly from your fuse board

 

[powderblast]

Also as you manufacture one of the three phase on a convertor you need to make sure that isnt the one that holds your start realys in!

And the guy you bought the lathe off is probably selling all the accessories off too if you ask him

You will also need a 32 amp supply to run your convertor, the big round blue plug, normally wired directly from your fuse board

Im trying to get a transwave converter to run this lathe i do have a 16amp outlet that i run my welder from