When I had a fire around the back of my warehouse our big old 9L water extinguishers were far better than the newer 6L ones. Chubb reckoned the new ones were just as good as they have an additive and a spray nozzle. The additive didn't do anything and the spray wasn't as good as the jet.
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When I had a fire around the back of my warehouse our big old 9L water extinguishers were far better than the newer 6L ones. Chubb reckoned the new ones were just as good as they have an additive and a spray nozzle. The additive didn't do anything and the spray wasn't as good as the jet.
In theory a spray is great - if you have a big heavy duty fire pump - with the flow from a fire extinguisher it just isn't very effective. It also forces you to get way too close to the flames.
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Foam and water are for different class of fire.
As are jet and spray.
It is the installing BAFE registered Engineer duty to explain the use and why they are being fitted.
It is up to the operator to make sure they know how to use the unit.
As are jet and spray.
It is the installing BAFE registered Engineer duty to explain the use and why they are being fitted.
It is up to the operator to make sure they know how to use the unit.
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OMG that is incredible. They talk of progress - that must date back to the 50s or 60s?
I think I would fit an electric start though
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I think they did make a few, not many though
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OMG that is incredible. They talk of progress - that must date back to the 50s or 60s?
I think I would fit an electric start though
They did but it was soon removed.
The point of the hand start was that it didn't need weekly checks of the battery and starting of it.
You could pull it out, wind it up and be pumping water in minutes.
Was always good to make RN Tiffies drag it from 3 deck up to the Flight deck, with hoses and make them start it.
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That is why Chubb are not allowed to do in house Portable Fire fighting training any more.
As to be an approved, out of house BAFE course.
Plus Chubb units are not all that they claim to be.
I have no favourites of units I like to use. But there are some I will ALWAYS spend more time checking as they are known to have issues.
I like the fact that when they change our extinguishers I keep all the old ones. So now I have 3x 9L water - 2x 6L foam and 2x CO2 at home!
We have 21 extinguishers in work.
I used 6 in one go so you can never have too many
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best laugh I had was a mate said to a fire protection guy can u check my extinguisher to see if its ok 
the guy promptly emptied it and said yes its ok 
that's great its empty now 
useless git
the guy promptly emptied it and said yes its ok that's great its empty now useless git
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anyone know what we would use if there wasn't a red fire extinguisher to hold the fire doors open where your working ???
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I like the fact that when they change our extinguishers I keep all the old ones. So now I have 3x 9L water - 2x 6L foam and 2x CO2 at home!
We have 21 extinguishers in work.
I used 6 in one go so you can never have too many
Legally they are yours.
It now falls to you to dispose of them legally.
If the Chubb had removed them because they were years old for a water or powder based unit. He did not do his job. He should offered a Discharge test and refill and this should ne documented on the paper work.
If he removed as there were condemned, it is his legal duty to decommission them in accordance with BAFE and HSE. Failure to do so is a breech of the BAFE regulations.
The units should be marked up accordingly.
Now he could offer to dispose of the units, unless they are subject to environmental control he is not allowed to charge for that service. Halon will always have a charge to dispose.
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anyone know what we would use if there wasn't a red fire extinguisher to hold the fire doors open where your working ???
Norberts are good for that.
Dead or alive.
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anyone know what we would use if there wasn't a red fire extinguisher to hold the fire doors open where your working ???
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was once working in a museum and knocked a smoke detector .the system went off and all I heard was loads of banging noises 
the alarm was reset and the curator was none to happy with me . the whole building got evacuated and about 40 automatic fire doors had released and had to be re opened 
wasn't my day
the alarm was reset and the curator was none to happy with me . the whole building got evacuated and about 40 automatic fire doors had released and had to be re opened wasn't my day
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was once working in a museum and knocked a smoke detector .the system went off and all I heard was loads of banging noises
You mean they were not wedged open?>
What's wrong with that place?
