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Yea, that was more than one last time I checked.
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Unless arguing with the Mrs…the. Theres only oneside!Yea, that was more than one last time I checked.
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And it doesn’t matter which side you pick - it’ll be the wrong one either way
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I have road tested loads of EV's PHEV's - I like driving newish small cars - I like the regen braking on an EV - the one pedal driving suits my slow drivng style.
I been out in several Teslas - not so keen on these. They look sort of "thrown together" - can't explain - they look sort of like a cheap kit car to me.
My BIL has a full EV - BMW iXM - he £73k into it and not that happy with it. He is retired and only goes to the golf cource - and a holiday bungalow up the coast - 20miles away. I have driven this - and it seemed OK to me. Most of his working life he had flagship 7 series BMW's.
I have never done a long journey in an EV - I have never used a public charger (but charged loads up in a workshop setting).
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I won't be/doubt I will be buying one yet or in the near future - as I am not a new car buyer/renter.
But I never say never to anything...
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Yes agreed about all that - if they’re not for you then that’s fine.
Teslas don’t do it for me either - I could be tempted by a polestar if any but it’s not an option as yet.
The day to day experience of living one over a period of time is what I can offer my first hand opinion on, the rest I bow to your knowledge.
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Yes agreed about all that - if they’re not for you then that’s fine.
Teslas don’t do it for me either - I could be tempted by a polestar if any but it’s not an option as yet.
The day to day experience of living one over a period of time is what I can offer my first hand opinion on, the rest I bow to your knowledge.
Another thing - I buy and sell a few cars - always have done.
When I speak to the "sales reptiles" in dealers - they unsure on the used BEV/PHEV market.
Pricing them is difficult to say the least.
The few BMW 330E I have bought off customers who aborted on repairs - have been real difficult to sell - so difficult I am reluctant to buy into another one.
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New sales of BEVS are going up - a fairly strong trend - but PHEV sales are stable and not increasing (which makes them difficult to price).
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I’ve got a phev as a company car - the mpg is pretty good if you can plug it in, but to me they seem to be the worst of both worlds - at least in terms of complexity, and practicality. The idea of having 2 systems mated together just makes me think there’s twice as much to go wrong. I don’t know if that’s reflected in what you see it’s just my thoughts really.
I can see the obvious benefit of driving exactly like a normal ice car if you want, and better mpg - but it still seems like a halfway house.
It’s also a reminder how much the drone of an engine gets on my nerves, when it kicks in after half an hour of driving round in silence on battery power
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I’ve got a phev as a company car - the mpg is pretty good if you can plug it in, but to me they seem to be the worst of both worlds - at least in terms of complexity, and practicality. The idea of having 2 systems mated together just makes me think there’s twice as much to go wrong. I don’t know if that’s reflected in what you see it’s just my thoughts really.
I can see the obvious benefit of driving exactly like a normal ice car if you want, and better mpg - but it still seems like a halfway house.
It’s also a reminder how much the drone of an engine gets on my nerves, when it kicks in after half an hour of driving round in silence on battery power
As full BEV cars get better - the PHEV market is history in my mind.
Investing in a new PHEV looks like burning money to me.
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I got a PHEV gearbox off a Skoda estate car at the moment - broken casing from accident.
You cannot believe how heavy the gearbox is - I gonna swap guts over including the motor/dsg internals/mechatronic - into a dead gearbox with good castings - the trade punter has provided.
He has trailered this is from 80miles away as he can't get anybody to do it.
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High value/newish motor - hit curb with wheel - bent wishbone/rack/driveshaft and broke top gearbox mount clean off gearbox - this scrapped it - insurance write off and it went thru Copart.
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Wow that’s some whack to break a gearbox!
I’ve got a few kerbs in my time but never more than a scuffed alloy! A few months back I did hit a pothole on the M6 (in the fast lane!) near Corley services - wrecked the tyre and put a huge flat area on the rim. I was able to make it to the services before the tyre went completely flat thank goodness but I was convinced there was suspension damage - seems ok though.
There was a big thing in America relatively recently - someone discovered Home Depot (American BnQ - same colours, same font, same look - but apparently a completely different company?) seemed to be supplying some of the bits hidden away under trim panels - production line seemed to have run out of whatever bracket was needed, and someone had obviously improvised to keep production going.
Does seem to be a good second hand market in the USA - see enormous numbers of them, including in the cold northern states, so someone must be liking them.
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I have driven two, both customers cars who were trying to convince me how good they are. "Shoddy" is the word you are looking for IMO. That was the overwhelming impression I got.
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My friends dad has one, he wasn't impressed with my comment that you could lose the keys down the panel gaps."Shoddy" is a better description than I gave - very accurate.
I like the look of them. The big posh one had the look of a jag about it when it came out. They were the first EVs that managed to just look like cars rather than a space ship that homer simpson built. Could never afford one.
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Every one Ive seen reminds me of a Chrysler neon…..that were in the uk for a while…..they were shoddy too!"Shoddy" is a better description than I gave - very accurate.
You still see those around in the US too
I had a Dodge Stratus back in 2005 (Neon in drag) - top of windscreen seemed too low, but otherwise it did fine for a drive from Cincinnati to Niagara via Jamestown,NY - and back. I remember someone in a BMW M3 breadvan thingie getting all annoyed with me following him at speed, but not too close, around various nice bendy bits of on/off ramps around Columbia
Remember the Wartburg?
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I have fond memories of a Lada Niva, rotting beneath my feet, but twas cheap and fun!
Anyway tonight I have started touching the electric revolution applying for a charging point voucher for my holiday cottages.
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