Adventures in an all electric vehicle.

[premmington]

I bought in some pattern suspension parts for a 2017 Tesla 3 today.

Moog - has started making pattern parts for them - got them by ordering them froma local motor factors.

Car has 73k on clock and punter reckons he paid just over £40k for it - it is out of sales warranty - and it is a mess under it.

 

[atomant48]

I bought in some pattern suspension parts for a 2017 Tesla 3 today.

Moog - has started making pattern parts for them - got them by ordering them froma local motor factors.

Car has 73k on clock and punter reckons he paid just over £40k for it - it is out of sales warranty - and it is a mess under it.

What’s up with it underneath ? Worn out or damage ?

 

[bricol]

I bought in some pattern suspension parts for a 2017 Tesla 3 today.

Moog - has started making pattern parts for them - got them by ordering them froma local motor factors.

Car has 73k on clock and punter reckons he paid just over £40k for it - it is out of sales warranty - and it is a mess under it.

When I've had my cars in for MOT, after I've had a ganders under mine and been certain there's nothing to worry about, I usually get bored and take a look under stuff up on other ramps - and I've been gob-smacked at how much rust is under cars, or on suspension, on cars of an age I would still consider new, or quite new.

 

[daleyd]

I’m confused - you can get a new one for 40k, so why would you pay that for a 6 year old one?

 

[bricol]

I’m confused - you can get a new one for 40k, so why would you pay that for a 6 year old one?

I just read it as he paid 40 grand for a 2017 Tesla . . . in 2017. Now out of warranty.

 

[daleyd]

I just read it as he paid 40 grand for a 2017 Tesla . . . in 2017. Now out of warranty.

Ah, I read it as they’ve bought it recently for that, makes more sense!

 

[premmington]

What’s up with it underneath ? Worn out or damage ?

Wear - serious supension wear for the mileage - nothing bent - wheel rims not marked.

 

[Ubique]

They're heavy, all that evenly distributed mass and instant-on torque takes it's toll on suspension components - as do UK roads.

 

[premmington]

They're heavy, all that evenly distributed mass and instant-on torque takes it's toll on suspension components - as do UK roads.

Tyres got some odd wear to them as well - outer edges...

 

[Ubique]

Same with the BEV's I suffer - tyres barely last 12k and visible outer edge wear from 8k, we're told by the manufacturer it's a 'characteristic' of the geometry setup to maintain vehicle stability.

 

[GRW]

I bought in some pattern suspension parts for a 2017 Tesla 3 today.

Moog - has started making pattern parts for them - got them by ordering them froma local motor factors.

Car has 73k on clock and punter reckons he paid just over £40k for it - it is out of sales warranty - and it is a mess under it.

So, £40k in 2017.
What sort of money is the car worth today - any idea?

 

[premmington]

So, £40k in 2017.
What sort of money is the car worth today - any idea?

No idea...? I don't want one!

Not becasue it is an EV - but because it is so poorly made!

But would think a twin motor one would be huge money now (but was some discounting reported on these mini Tesla's - don't know how true that is?)

 

[GRW]

No idea...? I don't want one!

Not becasue it is an EV - but because it is so poorly made!

But would think a twin motor one would be huge money now (but was some discounting reported on these mini Tesla's - don't know how true that is?)

I was just wondering how many thousands per year it cost to have one, that's all.
If an EV is typical in depreciation to a family-sized ICE, then I think what 35% after 3-years, 50% after 5 yrs or so, so maybe 75% is a fair guess?
If so, it's value might be 10k, and it's lost 30k, meaning it's cost on average about £4285 pa.

 

[rhubarb7]

I was just wondering how many thousands per year it cost to have one, that's all.
If an EV is typical in depreciation to a family-sized ICE, then I think what 35% after 3-years, 50% after 5 yrs or so, so maybe 75% is a fair guess?
If so, it's value might be 10k, and it's lost 30k, meaning it's cost on average about £4285 pa.

Have a browse for values on ebay, there's a fair few on there

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[willie.macleod]

I was just wondering how many thousands per year it cost to have one, that's all.
If an EV is typical in depreciation to a family-sized ICE, then I think what 35% after 3-years, 50% after 5 yrs or so, so maybe 75% is a fair guess?
If so, it's value might be 10k, and it's lost 30k, meaning it's cost on average about £4285 pa.

Why guess? The numbers you are plucking out of thin air bear no resemblance to actual values which are easily found on Autotrader/eBay....

It will be worth somewhere around £25k, if the owner charged it at sensible rates for most of the miles then they will be way ahead financially in running costs as well compared to anything with comparable performance!

 

[premmington]

Same with the BEV's I suffer - tyres barely last 12k and visible outer edge wear from 8k, we're told by the manufacturer it's a 'characteristic' of the geometry setup to maintain vehicle stability.

But I starting to see allot of these BEVS now (you got to see them first @Ubique in the under warranty period).

But this is the second or third heavy EV I seen with - badly worn tyres on outer edges - whole set - not just the fronts.

 

[premmington]

Why guess? The numbers you are plucking out of thin air bear no resemblance to actual values which are easily found on Autotrader/eBay....

It will be worth somewhere around £25k, if the owner charged it at sensible rates for most of the miles then they will be way ahead financially in running costs as well compared to anything with comparable performance!

Not far off what I quessed - I reckon a 2019 Tesla 3 - single motor one with no panel damage and 70k on clock would trade at £21-£22k

EDIT to post: The car is a late 2017/18 car and an import RHD - the real age was hidden by a "vanity plate" - parts were ordered off VIN number - as there were no PNC listing for cars under 2019 on UK parts catalogues.

 

[atomant48]

But I starting to see allot of these BEVS now (you got to see them first @Ubique in the under warranty period).

But this is the second or third heavy EV I seen with - badly worn tyres on outer edges - whole set - not just the fronts.

This sounds quite interesting. Even though they have awesome torque I’m not sure i drive it any harder than my diesel. Maybe i do. One thing with the tesla - it has very little body roll, i am not sure if it has some sort of electronics controlling the suspension, but it doesn't roll at all when cornering. I guess this could load up the edges of the tyres more than if the suspension moved a bit ?

 

[atomant48]

Why guess? The numbers you are plucking out of thin air bear no resemblance to actual values which are easily found on Autotrader/eBay....

It will be worth somewhere around £25k, if the owner charged it at sensible rates for most of the miles then they will be way ahead financially in running costs as well compared to anything with comparable performance!

I hadn’t thought about that Willie but you are right - those 70k miles would have been about 10k in diesel i guess. - probably 25% of that in electric. Probably more than pays for the (quickly diminishing these days) “premium” folk quote for the EV model over equivalent ICE in retail cost.

 

[premmington]

I hadn’t thought about that Willie but you are right - those 70k miles would have been about 10k in diesel i guess. - probably 25% of that in electric. Probably more than pays for the (quickly diminishing these days) “premium” folk quote for the EV model over equivalent ICE in retail cost.

The "sales reptiles" I speak to in the trade are frightened of underwriting hybrids (PHEVS) for trade ins.

Some dealer networks will only take there only "badge" back.

BEVS is an unproven market as yet (as any new product is for resale).

Leasing looks a better idea for PHEVS/BEVS - till the depreciation element of EV ownership has settled down (and it will in time).

I am very clear the 25% fuel cost against diesel is if you are charging at home - not fast DC injecting at the roadside.

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Looking like to me - the money for me will be "DC chargers" and selling full sets of tyres. Because trading these cars at the moment looks risky and repairing them is like "a living hell" at the moment.