Calor Gas Valve Removal

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"You and Yours" is a consumer programme on the wireless, Radio 4 weekdays at 12:15

We know what the definition of "abandoned" is, but how do we know (and maybe prove in court) that an item is in fact "abandoned"?

 

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How can anyone (company or individual) be held liable for the abandonment of their property by a third party?

Effectively, what's being said is that -say- I loan a sofa to a neighbour and they throw it in a hedge, that it's my responsibility?

Actually if you employ someone to take your rubbish away and they fly-tip it you can be fined. The person whose land it is dumped on is responsible for its proper disposal. The law, justice and common sense aren't easy bedfellows.

 

[cumbriasteve]

Actually if you employ someone to take your rubbish away and they fly-tip it you can be fined. The person whose land it is dumped on is responsible for its proper disposal. The law, justice and common sense aren't easy bedfellows.

That was happening a lot around here by cowboys with trailers charging £20 to take stuff to the tip and then dumping it down some farmers lane.

Apparently you are protected if you ask them for their waste carrier licence and record, even photograph it, it could of course be a fake print out but I think you would have done enough to protect yourself....I would like to hope so anyways

 

[brightspark]

if someone takes your crap away cheap just make sure there's nothing with your name on . if u have it in for someone root through there dustbin get papers with name on put it in with rubbish and dump it in a layby

 

[Mee]

We know what the definition of "abandoned" is, but how do we know (and maybe prove in court) that an item is in fact "abandoned"?

It does vary slightly from area to area, but anything classified as rubbish is classed as abandoned as soon as the person dumping it walks away from it, this is how councils issue tipping notices.

Sorry, that's balls. If a 'legal professional' reckons that's the case then it helps reinforce the stereotype.

Court says differently, and backed by legal precedent, and used by all local councils enforcing litter.

Actually if you employ someone to take your rubbish away and they fly-tip it you can be fined. The person whose land it is dumped on is responsible for its proper disposal. The law, justice and common sense aren't easy bedfellows

Very true.

That was happening a lot around here by cowboys with trailers charging £20 to take stuff to the tip and then dumping it down some farmers lane.

Apparently you are protected if you ask them for their waste carrier licence and record, even photograph it, it could of course be a fake print out but I think you would have done enough to protect yourself....I would like to hope so anyways

Not quite true, you have to take all reasonable steps to ensure you use a registered waste carrier, pictures of their license is a good step but checking them out online with a print out is pretty irrefutable.

if someone takes your crap away cheap just make sure there's nothing with your name on . if u have it in for someone root through there dustbin get papers with name on put it in with rubbish and dump it in a layby

That's one way of dealing with it.

 

[Brett Banyard]

i tend to lay them flat chock block each side and use a cold chisel and hammer to break the seal then stillsons

 

[Bryan Williams]

I'm going to have a bash at making a woodburner using a 15kg bottle. Is the valve left hand thread or just bluddy tight, or indeed, both?

If you go to a gas supplier they will remove the valve for you for a fiver, they will round here anyway.They just stick it in a frame and swing on a big spanner.
Done .

 

[Cobbler]

If you go to a gas supplier they will remove the valve for you for a fiver, they will round here anyway.They just stick it in a frame and swing on a big spanner.
Done .

I don't think I would advise that, being as the gas company's still own the cylinder. By making a stove you are effectively damaging their property & you could well get some grief. Big Stilsons, big heave & it will come out. The one I removed was 3/4 BSP & right hand thread.

 

[Bryan Williams]

I don't think I would advise that, being as the gas company's still own the cylinder. By making a stove you are effectively damaging their property & you could well get some grief. Big Stilsons, big heave & it will come out. The one I removed was 3/4 BSP & right hand thread.

They don't give a monkeys, not all companies are the same though,a quick phone call and you will know.
The guys that supply the welding gas for work are happy too do it.

 

[captain-destructo]

For instance, it costs me over £100/tonne to dispose of green waste so I pass that cost on to jobs that generate it - if the client says they don't like that charge and want to employ someone cheaper then that's their lookout.

you need to get yourself an allotment and some big compost bins

 

[doubleboost]

Once they are painted grey with the valve & cover (removed) they become an air receiver

 

[chutchins1]

I don't think I would advise that, being as the gas company's still own the cylinder. By making a stove you are effectively damaging their property & you could well get some grief. Big Stilsons, big heave & it will come out. The one I removed was 3/4 BSP & right hand thread.

Did one recently; open the valve to release any pressure, and use a garden hose pushed tight into the valve to inject water. Release every 5 -10 seconds or so to let the pressure out, keep going till its full. You'll struggle to explode it now! Laid down on its side, cut into the brass valve neck with a grinder, and a quick knock with a lump hammerhead takes it clean off. Now stand it up and use a hole saw to make an 80mm hole in the top, effectively removing the remainder of the valve. Tip it upside down and make a hole in the bottom if your design calls for it. Now use your imagination for the next step!

 

[Bryan Williams]

Your friendly gas supplier will have a strap and spanner to wizz one off in a second, usually about a fiver to do it for you.