Computer screens on car dashboards.

[mtt.tr]

Touchscreens cause accidents, and reduce the general standard of car control. That isn't 'hating all things modern', it's caring about road safety.

Prove it, it's a grand statement to make with no base evidence given.
You are probably not aware that whilst driving functionality is hugely reduced to core tasks you most often can't go into menus unless stopped.

Seemingly most accidents are reported being smartphone related.

You could argue that. My 30 year old cheap Peugeot's switches work perfectly, how many touch screens will be working perfectly, 30 years from now? Zero.

Alot I should imagine, assume life span of an LCD being 30,000hrs and average driven speed for me 24mph. That will last past the mechanicals.

You could argue that. My 30 year old cheap Peugeot's switches work perfectly, how many touch screens will be working perfectly, 30 years from now? Zero.

Will they feel fresh in a million miles, will the car still exist? doubtful

 

[mtt.tr]

I find it strange that using a mobile phone is illegal because has been proven to be a serious distraction, but as soon as its fixed in place it miraculously becomes perfectly safe ....

I also wish mobile phones automatically stopped working over 15mph and you have to deliberately reactivate to use at speed (so passengers can use theirs but as a driver you have to choose to be distracted by a call or other "essential " activity. No doubt some will think this luddite, but when on acall that involves thinking you are able to concentrate on both activities

They do if using android auto or carplay but you'd know that right?

 

[jerrytug]

I find it strange that using a mobile phone is illegal because has been proven to be a serious distraction, but as soon as its fixed in place it miraculously becomes perfectly safe ....

I also wish mobile phones automatically stopped working over 15mph and you have to deliberately reactivate to use at speed (so passengers can use theirs but as a driver you have to choose to be distracted by a call or other "essential " activity. No doubt some will think this luddite, but when on acall that involves thinking you are able to concentrate on both activities

Yes a conversation demands a lot of concentration, or it ought to.
Hands-free doesn't make it magically safe, I totally agree.
I sometimes gesticulate, shrug my shoulders, shake my head or nod, laugh or frown during a mobile conversation (not in the car). It's just natural and I bet others do too.

To say it doesn't take some attention away from driving, and thus increase the risk of an accident, is a mistake.

 

[selectedgrub]

7,8,9,10

 

[addjunkie]

Yes a conversation demands a lot of concentration, or it ought to.
Hands-free doesn't make it magically safe, I totally agree.
I sometimes gesticulate, shrug my shoulders, shake my head or nod, laugh or frown during a mobile conversation (not in the car). It's just natural and I bet others do too.

To say it doesn't take some attention away from driving, and thus increase the risk of an accident, is a mistake.

I find it easier to just leave the phone to ring out, if its important they will leave a message, if not they didnt want to talk me anyway. Quite often do the same when Im not driving. Saves me speaking to the Aisan gentleman asking for Cheryl about her accident or bad debt, or £52.50 loan application!

 

[jerrytug]

I find it easier to just leave the phone to ring out, if its important they will leave a message, if not they didnt want to talk me anyway. Quite often do the same when Im not driving. Saves me speaking to the Aisan gentleman asking for Cheryl about her accident or bad debt, or £52.50 loan application!

Exactly.

 

[Kayos]

Because I don't understand the rational of it, handful on here have become those that hate all things modern or current.

Dare I mention
Wind power, solar, Ev's, fusion, climate change, modern car diagnostic, modern diesels, modern cars at all and so on.

I find it really bizarre to intentionally set oneself up to not coexist with the future, by all means get stuck in the past but stop getting upset by it, it's a personal choice. Time only moves forward keep up or don't it's that simple.

Very well put

Time and technology moves on, some just refuse to accept it

 

[mike os]

They do if using android auto or carplay but you'd know that right?

As I use both practical daily and have done so for several years, you know I might just, so stop being a dick

No they don't... it just transfers most of the functionality to the screen in the car, I can still use the Internet, play music, make calls.. just now it's all on the nice safe screen in the dashboard. So instead of looking at a screen in my left hand I now look down and off the driving line at a screen on my dash... yep that's safer

 

[mike os]

Very well put

Time and technology moves on, some just refuse to accept it

Just because tech moves on doesn't intrinsically make it better or safer

 

[mtt.tr]

As I use both practical daily and have done so for several years, you know I might just, so stop being a dick

No they don't... it just transfers most of the functionality to the screen in the car, I can still use the Internet, play music, make calls.. just now it's all on the nice safe screen in the dashboard. So instead of looking at a screen in my left hand I now look down and off the driving line at a screen on my dash... yep that's safer

Mine doesn't it's bare functions only, try to do to much it locks the screen for some time. That's android not van specific


And how do you know have you sinned in your own church

 

[Other Daniel]

The good old human race - two steps forward, one step back.

 

[Kayos]

Just because tech moves on doesn't intrinsically make it better or safer

Never said it did, however when the person in a 30 year old Peugeot is distracted by the jammed up heater controls and smashes into the side of my 2022 Audi Q4 E-tron, I know who will likely come off better

 

[Hood]

The good old human race - two steps forward, one step back.

Well at least it is still going forward, better than no steps forward and no steps back

 

[Other Daniel]

Well at least it is still going forward, better than no steps forward and no steps back

My point exactly.
We do, ultimately, continue to progress, in net terms.
And you can't have success without any failures.

 

[jerrytug]

Never said it did, however when the person in a 30 year old Peugeot is distracted by the jammed up heater controls and smashes into the side of my 2022 Audi Q4 E-tron, I know who will likely come off better

How charming.

 

[Kayos]

How charming.

It's a fact, safety in modern cars has improved massively. I remember driving a Nova, your knees were effectively the crumple zones

 

[mtt.tr]

It's a fact, safety in modern cars has improved massively. I remember driving a Nova, your knees were effectively the crumple zones

Let me counter that ahead of time show I'm balanced

They had to improve safety to
A: make the car weaker and last less time
B: safer as everyone is crashing due to being distracted

 

[selectedgrub]

Never said it did, however when the person in a 30 year old Peugeot is distracted by the jammed up heater controls and smashes into the side of my 2022 Audi Q4 E-tron, I know who will likely come off better

Wow 2022 and a Q4 Etron with the leather seats no doubt.

 

[Kayos]

Let me counter that ahead of time show I'm balanced

They had to improve safety to
A: make the car weaker and last less time
B: safer as everyone is crashing due to being distracted

Let me counter your counter claim sir

Modern cars regularly do 150k miles plus with relative ease, a run of the mill car from 30 years ago would struggle to manage that, 40 years ago they were scrap at half that (not including exotics that people paid a fortune for)
(Or the mk1 Talbot horizon your mate has had from new and it's mint, etc)

Are people more distracted? Probably
Has the law failed to keep up with tech? Definitely but it is now, 6 points and fine for using a phone, mine goes in the glovebox and stays there

 

[Kayos]

Wow 2022 and a Q4 Etron with the leather seats no doubt.

It was an example of a super modern car, currently my car is a 2017 Nissan Juke