dissolving Hilux

Erie Fred · Dec 1, 2023

We only see rusted out vehicles like y'all have posted 20 miles west of me, in O-HI-O.
Ugh.

dieselsamurai · Dec 1, 2023

Sand blasted and painted rear end today , pressure pot as a nightmare as I accidentally put some unfiltered grit in and kept blocking in nozzle then pipe filled up solid if I wasnt quick enough stopping it

Just wanted to get majority of paint on before weather changed

Weld up chassis tomorrow as got to pay the Bill's now . Heater running as a bit cold today

addjunkie · Dec 1, 2023

GRW said:
For 1999 & 200k miles that looks really good to me! I'd take that.
My 2000 LDV Convoy chassis was/is a lace curtain compared to that Hilux rear-end.
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dieselsamurai said:
Im feeling a lot better about the rust now !

Some folk like sado masochism !

GRW · Dec 1, 2023

addjunkie said:
Some folk like sado masochism !

I did repair it & ran it for another 9-mths. It's now due to be scrapped & I've bought this to convert in its place....

sako243 · Dec 1, 2023

Shiny Steve said:
You lot are making landrovers sound(slightly) better.

Dad's had three Shoguns die due to rust in the time my Defender is still on its original chassis from 1994.

GRW · Dec 1, 2023

sako243 said:
Dad's had three Shoguns die due to rust in the time my Defender is still on its original chassis from 1994.

Round here used to be it seemed a Diahatsu Fourtrak on every farmyard (before them it was the similarly hardy but rot-prone Subaru 4x4 pickup - remember those?).
the Fourtrak seemed mechanically bulletproof but prone to tin weevil also, which saw them off - now you rarely see one.
Didn't Shoguns also suffer from head gasket failures as well as rot?

OJCar · Dec 1, 2023

A friend who has an MoT Garage business ended up with lots of failed (badly) on corrosion Diahatsu Fourtrak in his yard.
I said about the way Ladas got shipped back to Russia.
Next thing he had his yard back as the Diahatsu Fourtrak were on their way to Africa.

sako243 · Dec 1, 2023

GRW said:
Didn't Shoguns also suffer from head gasket failures as well as rot?

I think the Pajeros possibly. There weren't actually that many Shoguns but a lot that looked like Shoguns.

Don't think Dad had any head gasket issues but did crack two heads and snap a cambelt. Oh and main bearings on gearbox and also a snapped / cracked propshaft (he only ever took it in fields, not the kind of stupid things I do with the 110 and Range Rover).

GRW · Dec 2, 2023

sako243 said:
I think the Pajeros possibly. There weren't actually that many Shoguns but a lot that looked like Shoguns.

Don't think Dad had any head gasket issues but did crack two heads and snap a cambelt. Oh and main bearings on gearbox and also a snapped / cracked propshaft (he only ever took it in fields, not the kind of stupid things I do with the 110 and Range Rover).

Ah yes, cracked cyl heads! I knew it was something to do with the cyl head & (diesel) Mitsubishi's.
(I've had a couple of 1.6 petrol Mitsubishi cars, a 98 Carisma & an 07 Lancer, and while not aspirational or badge caché cars, both were cheap, well-made, pleasant & trouble free vehicles).

dieselsamurai · Dec 16, 2023

small update most parts de-rusting in Citric acid bath

Axle sand blasted

didnt take a picture of it done but surprising what can be done with these pressure pots , 2x 3hp compressors but have 500lts of air so took about 30mins to do with some waiting around to let them catch up

chased for good metal on chassis it wasnt too bad

weird the other side has none at all

I could cut it in and make it look pretty but its not a show pony so patch over

lewlux · Dec 16, 2023

I think thats not bad atall for a 20+yr old truck, looking good now :thumbup:

dieselsamurai · Dec 17, 2023

Chassis patch undercoat and 2 coats chassis paint hopefully good for a few more years

bush worn through on drivers side leaf spring never seen that happen , I dont really want to replace it as rubber is fine can i just machine a bit of tube the right diameter to the right length ? is it hardened ?

mylesdw · Dec 18, 2023

Unlikely to be hardened.

lewlux · Dec 22, 2023

Depends on what you want really, that hole looks oveled unless its just the pic making it look it, i would bung a new set on there if poss,

tom2207 · Dec 22, 2023

sako243 said:
Dad's had three Shoguns die due to rust in the time my Defender is still on its original chassis from 1994.

I did an mot fail Shogun 3.2 yesterday for a friend ,,, it got a couple of patches on outriggers and one at the rear wheel arch same place as Disco , but the whole thing underneath looks like a giant cornflake ,,, it has to go , this time next year there wont be anything left , even the bolt heads have vanished on the rear suspension and the fuel filler lines were like brandy snaps ,, touch them and they actually vanished into dust , quite spectacular and quite scary at the same time. But super tidy looking from a car park point of view.

dieselsamurai · Dec 22, 2023

lewlux said:
Depends on what you want really, that hole looks oveled unless its just the pic making it look it, i would bung a new set on there if poss,

I think its the angle of the photo the rubber is good and the other side bush is like new dont know why this one wore through

OJCar · Dec 22, 2023

dieselsamurai said:
I think its the angle of the photo the rubber is good and the other side bush is like new dont know why this one wore through

On Series Land Rovers I have seen it happen when the shackle bolts have been fully done up with the suspension hanging down (full droop) (on axle stands).
Rather than the shackle bolts being fully done up once the weight of the vehicle is back on its wheels and the suspension has been bounced a few times to settle it.
Means that there are allsorts of things being pre-loaded when the vehicle is at its normal ride height.
Also get the rubber part tearing.
I'd change the bush while you've got the leaf spring out, but its your car.

dieselsamurai · Dec 22, 2023

OJCar said:
On Series Land Rovers I have seen it happen when the shackle bolts have been fully done up with the suspension hanging down (full droop) (on axle stands).
Rather than the shackle bolts being fully done up once the weight of the vehicle is back on its wheels and the suspension has been bounced a few times to settle it.
Means that there are allsorts of things being pre-loaded when the vehicle is at its normal ride height.
Also get the rubber part tearing.
I'd change the bush while you've got the leaf spring out, but its your car.

I get that if its a bonded bush as then its constantly being twisted more than it should but these appear to be split bushes so the metal part is free to revolve in fact on my friends land cruiser pickup they have grease nipples

im on the fence about replacement as they seem in good nick and the parts bill is starting to add up at the wrong time of year

dieselsamurai · Dec 22, 2023

tom2207 said:
I did an mot fail Shogun 3.2 yesterday for a friend ,,, it got a couple of patches on outriggers and one at the rear wheel arch same place as Disco , but the whole thing underneath looks like a giant cornflake ,,, it has to go , this time next year there wont be anything left , even the bolt heads have vanished on the rear suspension and the fuel filler lines were like brandy snaps ,, touch them and they actually vanished into dust , quite spectacular and quite scary at the same time. But super tidy looking from a car park point of view.

mine hopefully should be the opposite to that its no show pony but underneath should not need to worry for the next few years