First Woodburning stove

[waddycall]

Burning wood isn’t good for the environment.

 

[fizzy]

Burning wood isn’t good for the environment.

Sadly it most certainly isn't.

 

[123hotchef]

Something like this is vital

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i need one i normally rest it on a bigger trunk

 

[J1nx]

Been getting some Ash ready for next winter, it’s certainly a good work out and it’s a great excuse for some fun tools..

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Im also trying a new seasoning rack, wide open to the elements so high hopes for super fast seasoning..

 

[julianf]

Sustainable perhaps but certainly not carbon neutral, the amount of fuel used to cut, extract, transport and chip for biomass is massive.

Bob

I wasnt making the argument for shipping wood over from the Americas to burn in power stations here at all.

My comment was in response to domestic use of wood burning stoves, Vs buying mains gas etc.

I reckon the massive majority of wood burnt in domestic wood burners is a by product of another activity. I mean I don't know for sure at all, but my suspicion is that most is "waste" from another activity, rather than harvested for the primary intention of burning?

 

[waddycall]

Not necessarily. I left the wood burning industry about three years ago at that time a lot of trees were being felled in Latvia, kiln dried (lots,of energy involved), transported to the uk, bagged up and distributed to “carbon neutral” end users who ran there stoves badly and chucked out a load of particulates.

 

[123hotchef]

Not necessarily. I left the wood burning industry about three years ago at that time a lot of trees were being felled in Latvia, kiln dried (lots,of energy involved), transported to the uk, bagged up and distributed to “carbon neutral” end users who ran there stoves badly and chucked out a load of particulates.

thats it kiln dried i would never purchase that stuff! its al boloney! i have a old mate that makes charcoal the old school way he took some camping with us 2 years ago great stuff

 

[8ob]

I wasnt making the argument for shipping wood over from the Americas to burn in power stations here at all.

My comment was in response to domestic use of wood burning stoves, Vs buying mains gas etc.

I reckon the massive majority of wood burnt in domestic wood burners is a by product of another activity. I mean I don't know for sure at all, but my suspicion is that most is "waste" from another activity, rather than harvested for the primary intention of burning?

Most of the big log producers will only buy in harvested timber by the artic load, its the only economical way if using processors. Its the smaller and diy log producers that process arb waste.

Bob

 

[minimutly]

Something like this is vital

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I have one of those things that you clamp the chainsaw into - so no bending over all the time. Would be ideal with a leccy chainsaw

 

[123hotchef]

I have one of those things that you clamp the chainsaw into - so no bending over all the time. Would be ideal with a leccy chainsaw

whats that then?

 

[minimutly]

whats that then?

Oh I can't remember what it was called, a simple saw horse with a chainsaw mount on one end. You slide the wood along, tilt the chainsaw to cut the log, slide cut, slide, move pile...

 

[addjunkie]

Most of the big log producers will only buy in harvested timber by the artic load, its the only economical way if using processors. Its the smaller and diy log producers that process arb waste.

Bob

Price of a wagon load round here ( edge of biggest commercial forest in England) is so high due to power station and chipboard factory demand, that a few of the log sellers are buying in latvian hard wood timber shipped into Seaham, for seasoning to logs. Bizzare really, but biomas power stations are a mental government finance cockup, with out the supplement they are not viable as a buisness due to the massive initial outlay.

 

[julianf]

Price of a wagon load round here ( edge of biggest commercial forest in England) is so high due to power station and chipboard factory demand, that a few of the log sellers are buying in latvian hard wood timber shipped into Seaham, for seasoning to logs. Bizzare really, but biomas power stations are a mental government finance cockup, with out the supplement they are not viable as a buisness due to the massive initial outlay.

Its not like Hinkley C wasn't subject to a number of govt financing guarantees either.

Again, I'm not arguing one or the other, and I'm dubious of some of the biomass stuff, but, at the same time, realise that new "tech" that may be beneficial sometimes needs government assistance.

No one on earth with any sense would say that nuclear power would be in any way what it is now without the absolutely vast sums of money poured in by government over the past, well, 80 years or so - and still Hinkley C can not stand on its own two feet without further government guarantees.

I feel i need to say again that I'm not arguing one or the other, but simply pointing out that power gen is very much a central government policy, and singling out biomass and complaining about supplements is, i feel, trying to single it out, when, really, you could probably spend money on biomass for the next 80 years and not have even gotten close to the public money spent on the development of nuclear.

 

[Maddog]

Any of you guys recommend a cheap splitter or a decent (cheap splitting axe) that I can use for my logs. Doesn't need to be able to handle 4ft wide trunks but just some (say under 18") logs.


Cheers.

 

[fizzy]

Its not like Hinkley C wasn't subject to a number of govt financing guarantees either.

Again, I'm not arguing one or the other, and I'm dubious of some of the biomass stuff, but, at the same time, realise that new "tech" that may be beneficial sometimes needs government assistance.

No one on earth with any sense would say that nuclear power would be in any way what it is now without the absolutely vast sums of money poured in by government over the past, well, 80 years or so - and still Hinkley C can not stand on its own two feet without further government guarantees.

I feel i need to say again that I'm not arguing one or the other, but simply pointing out that power gen is very much a central government policy, and singling out biomass and complaining about supplements is, i feel, trying to single it out, when, really, you could probably spend money on biomass for the next 80 years and not have even gotten close to the public money spent on the development of nuclear.

Compare biomass to a gas fired powerstation though.
Gas is far cheaper and cleaner than biomass will ever be but the Greens have kidded themselves that gas puts out more CO2. Cutting down huge areas of Virgin Canadian forest doesn't seem to matter.

 

[fizzy]

Any of you guys recommend a cheap splitter or a decent (cheap splitting axe) that I can use for my logs. Doesn't need to be able to handle 4ft wide trunks but just some (say under 18") logs.


Cheers.

A fiskars axe.
Still hard work but much easier than a cheap axe or a wedge. Beware though the edge isnt very hard and will chip easily if you hit concrete or stones.
Wood needs to be dry to split properly.

 

[julianf]

Any of you guys recommend a cheap splitter or a decent (cheap splitting axe) that I can use for my logs. Doesn't need to be able to handle 4ft wide trunks but just some (say under 18") logs.


Cheers.

Get a hydraulic unit.

 

[Maddog]

I considered making one with an air ram I can use with my compressor.
But I think amount of logs I can scavenge off friends and family doesn't really warrant it.

 

[Maddog]

A fiskars axe.
Still hard work but much easier than a cheap axe or a wedge. Beware though the edge isnt very hard and will chip easily if you hit concrete or stones.
Wood needs to be dry to split properly.

They are a bit spendy for me TBH mate. I don't really want to spend over about £40. Again for the amount I'd use it I can't really justify it.

 

[gaz1]

Burning wood isn’t good for the environment.

not true

Biomass sustainability - Forest Research

Why is it that burning biomass can be sustainable?

www.forestresearch.gov.uk

where it dosnt is when its cut down and nothing is regrown in its place

its biomass that isnt

its stupid that we import so much of it we have wood yards here in the uk

Biomass production has boomed across Europe and America in recent years. Last year it provided 12 per cent of the UK's electricity, making it the second most successful source of renewable energy after wind. In 2017 the British biomass industry, which is run mostly on imported wood pellets, received £1 billion in government subsidies.

biomass for electricity is stupid we was better off burning coal to produce way more electricity than what it costs to import or even make it

I can actually tell you what the next push will be electricity to heat your homes and electric water heaters