Heating oil increase this morning

[GRW]

I used to do service surveys & reports on emergency generators. The amount of non-compliant fuel systems in bad order still in use by public utilities and businesses is one heck of a lot!

Given the potential fines for noncompliance (let alone if a spill occurred from an illegal commercial tank) the financial risks being taken are not good, while the potential pollution damage from just one tank/pipework fail - massive.

I flagged dozens of tanks that didn't get addressed due to "not having the budget" (while those same organisations found millions of £ annually for bonuses for their top brass).

 

[GRW]

PPG2 in 2001 (now withdrawn) recommended that all tanks need to be bunded to 110% . there was breathing space for people to change over .
bunded can be double skinned or in a bund but it has to be covered so water does not get in the bund. you can have a sight gauge in a tank if its in a bund, but not in a doubled skinned tank, as if it leaks it will bypass the secondary containment.
single skinned tanks are not recomended, and if it does leak into a water course/drain then there are some very big fines (unlimited) possible . Tescos were fined £8m.

I'm a bit out-of-date now. If PPG2 has finally been withdrawn - what is its replacement?

I know 3-years-ago Wales tightened up on the requirements (anything 200L above ground to be bunded, bund alarm, overfill protection valve etc, plus any u/g pipework to be double-skinned with leak detection system etc).... but I thought PPG2 was still part of it.

 

[DAPPH]

They've been filling my tank every year, maybe it depends if you're near a watercourse?

Perhaps it's because creeping civilization hasn't reached Pembroke so far this century .

 

[Matrixx]

google says: PPG2 was replaced by the National Planning Policy Framework on 27 March 2012

 

[minimutly]

Perhaps it's because creeping civilization hasn't reached Pembroke so far this century .

Thankfully...

 

[prepman]

Sight glasses are illegal in Wales ,,have been for years as it is a major oil leakage point when they break or the seals on the glass or stop tap decay

Fitted one similar to this but a cm scale
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/304714585317

 

[dobbslc]

They are ok as long as you remember to look at it now and then

 

[prepman]

Cool snap seems to have pushd prices up? Was looking to get 1,500 ltrs for winter... 57p up to ~61p

 

[Mikes]

Piece in the paper yesterday saying that oil prices have probably fallen as low as they are going to (and not quite as low as they were expected to).

 

[Morrisman]

Piece in the paper yesterday saying that oil prices have probably fallen as low as they are going to (and not quite as low as they were expected to).

Petrol and diesel prices have dropped a few pence around my area that last week or so. I assume they are all inexorably linked with heating oil.

 

[jonclancy]

I put 1000l in on 1 July at 62.35 plus VAT. Boilerjuice were a little cheaper, but had a longer lead time and a £11.99 service charge. I went with a local supplier.

 

[MysterG]

Just bought 1000l for 62ppl

Interestingly my last order (of 1000l) was about 13 months ago and 4p less per litre

 

[reb78]

Just bought 1000l for 62ppl

Interestingly my last order (of 1000l) was about 13 months ago and 4p less per litre

Very similar here. I am holding out but beginning to think it's a mistake. I need at least 3000l and was hoping to catch the lowest summer prices and order the lot so every penny difference is £30 on that order. It seems to me that the prices are lowest in June each year so waiting till Jul and Aug hits a 'summer low price premium'

 

[barracuda816]

I’m on the exact same boat. It went down to 93cent per L. But after the European elections shot up to 1.03€ it’s really expensive in Germany.

 

[prepman]

Very similar here. I am holding out but beginning to think it's a mistake. I need at least 3000l and was hoping to catch the lowest summer prices and order the lot so every penny difference is £30 on that order. It seems to me that the prices are lowest in June each year so waiting till Jul and Aug hits a 'summer low price premium'

Think this cold snap has pushed price up I think....need 1,500 to fill to 2,500 for winter 59p on home fuels (who won't deliver to me due to access)

 

[chrismac]

1000l just over 61p here.

 

[reb78]

Think this cold snap has pushed price up I think....need 1,500 to fill to 2,500 for winter 59p on home fuels (who won't deliver to me due to access)

I was saying this to the other half yesterday - half a day of rain and the prices have risen about 4ppl here (of course, the rain then continued...) five weeks of sun and they might drift down 0.5ppl. I should have bought when I posted on here about 4 weeks ago - thats the cheapest i have seen the prices this year around 57ppl but at the time diesel prices were slowly falling and I gambled on a bit more of a drop in kerosene!

 

[reb78]

Creeping down again. The 'raw' quite from boilerjuice is just sub 60ppl for my area today.

 

[JOEPRO]

Far too sensible to be planning ahead and ordering oil now. I will do the usual and wait until dead of winter and peak demand then fill up

 

[Stueeee]

Just ordered 1500 Litres from Boilerjuice. Worked out @ 60.7 P Per Litre with all the VAT etc. additions.

In the last week, my partner has just paid a Euro something per litre (around a pound a litre) for 1000 litres of Kero for her house in France.