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My stove is my only source of heating. I see many log piles around that people have bought from a 'local source'; I think you pay by the ton and it's mostly softwood, spruce or larch. The logs are soaking wet so you are mostly paying for water. I no longer have any reliable sources of hardwood so I have to burn coal which has gone up in price by 1/3 to 1/2. Anyway I have to buy it as it as it burns less quickly (by volume) than most wood species and has a higher calorific value. The way I see it, wood burning stoves used to be a major source of heat and hot water for many, then (probably still) they became more decorative items popular with those that already have other systems in place. Yes, I'm poor and the building I live in... I'm in the minority. Or am I as the gap between rich and poor ever increases?
Maybe I'm just rambling and if so I apologise.
Maybe I'm just rambling and if so I apologise.
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Next thing will be that the eye's in the sky will be able to measure the pollutants from cars as they move about and pinpoint them. The fun we used to have.
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IIRC they are equipping speed cameras with sensors to detect a polluting car.
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Never underestimate a governments ability to use tech like this as a gravy train. They put very accurate weighing strips on the inside lanes of the M25 about ten miles from a vehicle check point, as lorries run over these at speed they are weighed axle to axle ( accurate to 10% and 55mph), combined with the anpr cameras they can almost print out the fine before the truck gets pulled in at the checkpoint. Figures for catching overweight trucks went from one in ten to nine out of ten, At £1k per overweight ton that's a very
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How much is ripped off?
A lorry load of 26t locally is the best part of £2500. I see them for sale in Scotland for £1500.
Just for the wood thats about an extra £10 per bag to produce.
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If you read through the posts on this thread you will see that I seem to be paying the most per cubic m.
I buy mine from the best part of 20miles away, if I went local then it ridiculous.
Where can you buy a lorry load?
This is my closest supplier, and that is 0.8cubic m. Must be a child standing next to the bag.
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What gives you the impression it's a full bag ?
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I am surprised weights and measures haven't poked their nose into the log industry, a "load" can be just about anything. I knew of a loggist that threw an upturned wheel barrow into his truck before he put the logs in, he would turn up to make a delivery with what looked like an impressive load. When he was pointed at where they wanted them stacked he would wrestle the barrow out from under them
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IF thats a true 0.8m3 then thats the same as £197.50 per m3. Or about £99 per standard builders bag.
For kiln dried hard wood thats about right or even a little cheap.
If I was doing hardwood this year my price would be £200 per heaped IBC (about 1.2m3) for air dried.
You pay more per tonne to buy it and get less m3 per tonne when selling it than softwoods.
A lorry of hardwood would be about £3-3500 + VAT.
Thats £70+ an m3 just for the wood.
You can buy lorry loads in lengths or ready cut & kiln dried but would need a big place to store it to keep it dry.
If you have that much storage then buy it in unseasoned & save some cash.
As that would then take a long time to use is it worth paying extra for kiln dried when it will reabsorb moisture once out the kiln?
Dried to sub 20% is dried to sub 20% no matter how you dried it.
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I am surprised weights and measures haven't poked their nose into the log industry, a "load" can be just about anything. I knew of a loggist that threw an upturned wheel barrow into his truck before he put the logs in, he would turn up to make a delivery with what looked like an impressive load. When he was pointed at where they wanted them stacked he would wrestle the barrow out from under them
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They do where they get a complaint and have the resource to investigate. There was a case in Wiltshire a few years back - guy was advertising one tonne of wood delivered, he had a one-tonne pick up which he was loading level, turns out that’s not actually a tonne of wood, very hefty fine as I recall.
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Very hitnmiss on weight to volume if they are loose loaded into things like a dumpy bag, not sure how it works now in the world of kiln dried. We always worked on 2.5 cube per ton on seasoned logwood which I always considered on the generous side.
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I keep my fires going with almost exclusively with foraged wood . From verges River banks and lots off the beach after the rivers have flooded. You should never come back from a walk without a stick for the pile by the door, Soon mounts up over the year.
Often a word in the right ear can score you a bit of free wood too. Might not always be ash or oak but ive had many a memorable fire with lesser woods. When the sleet is lashing off your windows mid winter any wood is good wood when the flames are licking up the chimney back.
Often a word in the right ear can score you a bit of free wood too. Might not always be ash or oak but ive had many a memorable fire with lesser woods. When the sleet is lashing off your windows mid winter any wood is good wood when the flames are licking up the chimney back.
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I can't believe the price you guys are paying for logs. We have not paid anything ever. We do have to collect, cut, and split though, so its not exactly free.
Looking at that pic with the guy standing next to that builders bag, we must have about £10k worth.
Is log theft going to be the next big thing ?
Looking at that pic with the guy standing next to that builders bag, we must have about £10k worth.
Is log theft going to be the next big thing ?
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Allegedly dry wood has gone from 240 to 340 euros in the last year here, that 3m3 of 50cm split wood.
Which is shocking.
Which is shocking.
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Local company here doing 0.425M3 for £75 quid so just about £180 per cube…
https://thelogstoregroup.co.uk/product/kiln-dried-logs/
Some of the smaller guys without flash websites and air dried are a touch cheaper but not much. If I had to pay then I’d get a small bag for a couple of nice evenings in front of the fire and use the CH more.
https://thelogstoregroup.co.uk/product/kiln-dried-logs/
Some of the smaller guys without flash websites and air dried are a touch cheaper but not much. If I had to pay then I’d get a small bag for a couple of nice evenings in front of the fire and use the CH more.
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Hmm stack and cover or should it be left open to rain first? I thought it just needs to be dried.
