Peugeot 106 repair

[JuniorRod88]

Lowering Rear another 25mm/Straightened Wheel Arch

Hello all, here to inform you of the recent changes to the car since the last meeting. On the way home from the last meeting dad suggested i lower the back end slightly. I lowered the car in late January this year only 45mm though. So if i lower it a further 25, it will be a total of 65 mm.

I planned to be up bright and early this morning, because it is 26 degrees outside and i was off work. This didn't happen as my alarm didn't go off. I woke at 10 and had to go with my mum to get her car mot'd. It passed with flying colors. Though the inspectors didn't let me watch due to insurance and safety regulations i suspect. Came home at around 1pm got some lunch and set about work on the car.

I drove the car into the shed with the rear pointing out the door.



I left the garage door open as it would be a good chance to get some sun. It was warm enough to have the shirt off anyway. Lifted the rear up with the block and tackle, and set her down on a log. I took off the rear wheels and unbolted the shocks.



I measured the distance from the top of the shock mount bolt, down to the bump stop platform, which was, 205mm. Wheel i lowered the car before, i raised the trailing arm from a distance of 245mm to a solid 200mm, but the axle was off the car at that time and didn't have the forces of gravity acting upon it, so that figure was correct. I needed to shorted this distance of 205mm, to 180 mm.

I unbolted the anti-roll bar and twisted it to reveal the end of the drivers side torsion bar, and it wasn't long before i had it out. Thankfully i greased the torsion bar splines when setting the height before.



I raised the trailing arms 25mm and inserted the torsion bars again. Once done i bolted the anti-roll bar on again along with the shocks and wheels. Lowered her onto the ground to witness the result of my 3 hours work.

Before..


After..


The only reason we really dropped the back more is to help caster angles. On dad's advise.

After i took the car for a couple slow drives down the lane i parked her in the shed and bend the inner wheel arch straight again. It bent when the other car turned in on me on the way out of the bottom corner in the first heat on Friday night.



I just beat it with a block of wood and a hammer and got this.



So the car is set for Saturday the 13th at 2 pm. Can't wait, though i expect numbers to be low as two of our drivers have jumped ship to Ballymena Raceway. I intend to race there next year in a different 106,Which wil be An arched car with sill, Lightened and balanced flywheel plus a few other things. I also intend to race my current car at aghadowey and race the new car at ballymena and nutts corner if all goes to plan.

Before Saturday i need to get the inlet manifold off the car and cleaned to go back to the tig welder, because silly him, he didn't make the manifold water tight, Honest mistake, he lifted the stainless steel rod and left a deposit on the manifold which has caused a leak. So it will have to be repaired an fitted before Saturday. Tomorrow i'm going to another racers garage to help him change an engine in his 106 so he can get racing on Saturday, also this is the man i accidentally spun/ he turned in on me, so i hope to make amends.

All for now, I'm foe bed and for an early start tomorrow, if the alarm goes off.

Nothing needs done to the car other than the manifold being repair for Saturday.

All for now

Comments and complaints welcome

Sam

 

[JuniorRod88]

Quick update before tomorrows racing. I spent all of Tuesday and Wednesday helping #77 which his 106. His dad recently had surgery on his shoulder and could do nothing to help him. He needed the bottom end changed before Saturday so i said i would do it for him. First, because i'm fed up with the 2-3 car turn out in my class, and second, because he is useless with his hands.

I went over to his at 1:30pm on Tuesday and managed to get the head off, the old bottom end out and new one bolted in. I then put alternator, starter motor and cleaned the face off the block. Once that was out of the way, i selected fourth and pushed the car to get pistons 1+4 to TDC. That was that for Tuesday, so i told his dad to get a new gasket and to skim the head for tomorrow. He told me not to worry as he only skimmed the head on Thursday the day before that last meeting when the car cooked it self. He said to re-use the old head gasket which was newly put on last Thursday??!!

I thought he was having a laugh, but he insisted that we would get away with using the old gasket. So i landed down on Wednesday at 11am to bolt the head on set the valve clearances, set the timing, bolt on the exhaust, fill the gearbox, change the engine oil, fit the radiator and fill her will coolant.

Managed to get it all done for 6pm! Pushed the button and a smile suddenly came over the drivers face. The car was idling far better with the new bottom end. A racing legend came over to help me set the tappets as i have never set them before. Ex-Hot Rod Driver Jimmy Crawford! He was the winning man at all tracks in the 60's-80's!! If he had continued racing he would no doubt have been world champion!!

So his car was running and it moved, but that's not to say that it would be any quicker than mine on race day. Considering he was using the head gasket over again, with lock tight on it! We will see tomorrow at 2pm sharp!!

Few wee things done today then. I painted the stool i primed last week. I made this stool ages ago and i'm only getting round to painting it now..





Afterwards i got a call from dad saying he just bought Citroen Saxo which all of you know is a 106 twin. She is a Black, 2000, Mk2, 1.1, 8 valve, injected saxo which we intend to build into a stock car for me to race at Ballymena raceway. We intend on putting arches ans skirts on the car. Here she is in the ad photo, advertised for breaking and we bought her minus exhaust and front bumper for £150!!! I going to collect on monday.



She ever has the wee boot spoiler. I intend to put arches and skirts on the car to a similar standard as this...




This car races at Ballymena at the moment and is a winning car. There is no difference to the Aghadowey and ballymena specs other than Ballymena cars are allowed to have the arches and sills, a lightened and balanced flywheel and the gear ratios are allowed to be interchanged from the same model of car. Hopefully i should have the car built and racing for the start of the 2014 racing season, if all goes to plan. When i built this car i can race at three out of the four tracks in Northern Ireland. Competeing in the 106 at aghadowey and in the saxo at ballymena and nutts corner raceway.

I put the car on the trailer this evening so there would be no rush for the racing tomorrow. I also checked her for oil coolant and tire pressures. All were fine.

I will report back tomorrow with how i get on at the racing. My cousins are coming for some support tomorrow, so i need to stay out of the wall!

All for now, Sam

 

[JuniorRod88]

13/07/13(Late)Meeting Report

Well folks i'm a wee bit late on this update but here it is anyway Not that it's anything to shout about but...

I spent two days last week helping a fellow competitor, as described in post #90 above. So it i knew the other 106 would be attending the racing.

I arrived an hour early to get scrutinized and get a practice run. Everything went well, I went up to the 106 driver, who i had changed an engine for earlier that week, to see how the car was going. He sent me a text earlier that day before driving the car, extremely confident with his new engine which had a second hand head gasket!!

I didn't want to tell him but he wasn't going to go very quick with that gasket!

There were a total of three cars on track for the first heat. Two 106's and the Anglia. I began the race on the second row on the outside, basically last. The race began and i was soon positioned in second in front of the anglia. In all fairness to the anglia driver he is doing well considering he's in an anglia! The race continued and i nugded the 106 here and there to tell him, move! he was given the blue flag and ignored it. So i decided enough was enough and gave him a tiny push. Not into the wall, oh noooo! Just a wee push to get him to go wide mid corner so i could get up the inside. This is a common move for a lot of drivers and is perfectly legal. This went well, and i got the win at the end of that race.

I went into the pits and my dad commended me for my driving. I Got out of the car and went to talk to the other 106 man, who has taken a fit with me and is annoyed with me for passing him. Does he not realize that this is racing! Because he has fallen out with me, his dad has as well. My car is clearly quicker than his up the straight, and that is because he is using an old head gasket, Which is no fault of mind, i asked his to skim the head and get a new gasket!

Before the second heat a corsa driver arrived with his car to make the total of the juniors, up to 4 cars. Every little helps i suppose.

This corsa won the second heat with myself in second and the other 106 in third, then four laps down the anglia. After that race the corsa left and returned after the final with a citroen zx which he was going to compete with in the demolition derby.

In the final it was a three car race, which i started last again. I pasted the anglia and was sat behind the other 106 for most of the race. I tried every which way to pass him, i tried the outside and inside on bother corners, I tried the outside twice on the near corner and he drove clean into me!!!

He smashed into my drivers side quarter panel on more than one occasion. He was determined to win that race anyway he could. During that race my dad overheard another spectator saying "He's not going to let him past, he won't play fair, and drive clean."

Even after he hit me i was back on his bumper under half a lap later. It was after the second attempt at passing him which he hit me, that i decided to settle for second.
So i ended the day with a 1st, 2nd and a 3rd! Nothing special with only three cars. I was fed up with the pother 106 driver. I changed an engine for him and he goes and hits me more than once!

To make matters worse he sent the scrutineer over and accused me of cheating!!!!! He accused me of putting positive camber on the front drivers wheel! Which is a lie! I was just sickened, I have had no contact with him since i don't expect to talk to him for a while, and that is the last time he is getting any help from me again!!!

After the first heat, in which i touched his bumper, her dad told me i needed to learn how to drive!! When his son is afraid to reverse his own car in the pits and load it onto his trailer!!! I am fed up with sore losers who don't know the rules of racing. He frankly can't drive his car, he has trouble when setting off, he doesn't realize that when you let the clutch out you don't need about 6000 revs to drive calmly at 5 mph to the pit gate. He can't drive!!

I spent a good hour after the racing beating out the quarter panel which he smashed into!!

There were two photos taken at the racing, i have them but my bandwidth on Photobucket has been reached so i'll wait and upload them at a later date.

The next race meeting is today at 7:15pm. I'm off now to load the car onto the trailer, so i'll report back later on how the racing goes, hopefully no contact today.

Comments and complaints welcome

Sam

 

[JuniorRod88]

19/07/13 Meeting report

I loaded the car onto the trailer at 2pm today and pushed her into the shed to keep her out of the sun. Dad arrived home at 3pm and spent two hours in the office. We ate some pizza and then left for the racing at 6pm. We got to the track in the best of spirits ready for a good nights racing. Got the car off the trailer and all our spares out off her.

No sooner had i done this, was the two junior scrutineers, who were over to inspect the positive camber on the driver side front wheel. The one who measured the camber was an easy going person who's son used to race with me. The other was an older man who was a bit more tight when it came to the rules. He read the camber gauge which read 4 degrees positive camber, but that's not what he told the other scrutineer, he told the other scrutineer there was only 1 degree, So it wouldn't look as bad.

Anyway they passed me and told me to rectify it for the next meeting which is on the 26th of July. I filled her with fuel, lowered the tire pressures to 28psi on the back and 30 at the front. I took her out on a practice run and she felt great, she handled well and was pulling the very best. I then watched the euro stocks do a practice run and got suited and booted for the first heat.

It was a two car race which wasn't exciting and didn't really teach me anything. It was me and the other 106. I was starting on the inside and therefore could get away quicker, once the green flag had dropped which i did with little effort. On the quarter mile oval i was pulling away from the other car at one car length per lap. which is okay to be honest.

The second heat approached quicker than i expected with the arrival of another corsa who was quick. He arrived ten minutes before the green flag. I was starting on the outside of the track this time so i wasn't expecting to reach 1st position within half a lap, i though i would have to fight for it, but no i passed him without any drama. The corsa was catching me that little bit every lap, but was still 30 yards away by the end of the race. So a solid 1st for the second heat.

I was having a great time so far and could wish for anything better. My dad is now thinking about changing the valve timing so that the inlet valves open later and for longer He reckons is should help but i think it would decrease low end power.

In the final i had a good drive managing to build up a good lead of almost half a lap from the other 106, then the corsa started to catch me. I saw him in my mirrors at the other end of the straight I drove on and i saw the Marshall show the "3" sign which meant we had three laps remaining. I looked in my mirrors to find the corsa two car lengths behind me. I thought to myself, "lets see if he can catch me with 3 laps to go!" I battled it out for the remaining laps, and he was inching closer to me, I the last bend he touched hit my back bumper on the way out of the bend, but to no reward, i crossed the line before him and won the final!!

Overall a great days racing and no break downs or accident to that made it even better! I got a tin trophy this time instead of plastic. Three wins and a drive able car what else could you ask for!

The next meeting is on the 26th of July so not long to wait.

Comments and complains welcome

Sam

 

[Windy Miller]

Great stuff - more trophies I guess? Keep the race reports coming!

 

[PhillipM]

4* positive would be slower...

 

[zx9]

Well done on another great meeting, still enjoying reading the updates.

 

[JuniorRod88]

Great stuff - more trophies I guess? Keep the race reports coming!

Nothing better than some silverware to show off!

4* positive would be slower...

The 4 degrees positive camber is on the front offside wheel, which is on the inside of the track whilst cornering. The opposite front wheel has 8 degree negative camber, which is on the outside of the outside of the track whilst cornering. It is an advantage, though very small.

Because i'm racing on a quarter mile oval and only turning right the whole time, it would make sense to camber both front wheels for the one corner. My problem is, i didn't add any camber to that wheel. Yes because i have lowered the car the bottom arm is pointing uphill, which would create such camber, but not as much as four degrees.

I have come to the conclusion that the strut, hub or chassis is bent, one of the three must be the cause of the camber.

Well done on another great meeting, still enjoying reading the updates.

Thanks! Always nice to hear that people like reading my blabbering!

I've tried to attach two photos of me on the meeting before last, fighting to pass the other 106.

This is the car which i replaced the engine, and then the driver repaid me by smashing my drivers side 1/4 panel.

Sam

 

[PhillipM]

Ah, sorry, skim read, didn't realise it was oval.

 

[JuniorRod88]

Panel beating/New arrival/Scrutineers requests/odd bits and bobs

Well folks, with the last two weekends being filled with racing, parties, headaches and work, i have only been telling you about the meeting reports. I hadn't time to tell you what other things have been happening in the garage as last two weeks.

Well, first of all there has been a new arrival to the garage. She is french of course.



She's a Black 2000, 1.1 8v Saxo. I bought her on the 13th for £145. Few things but. She needs bumpers, the mid pipe for the exhaust(i have a 1400 down pie and silencer). She needs a pair of rear drums as the threads are wrecked and have been painted green, the yellow the green again. I just bought the small housing which the distributor bolts onto. Turns out the distributor i bought is broken and is beyond repair so i need to source another fore a 205 or early 106.I bought an inlet manifold for her last week for £20 along with half a Carburetor. It's missing the body which holds the spindle and butterfly. So i need to source another. She has power steering which i want rid of because it will lose me powaaa!! I have been given a lot of 38mm x 38mm x 3.5mm tube which will be used for the roll cage. I'm on the hunt for a bucket seat, cover and a 5 point harness.

I'll shush now and do some more pic whoring..



A non original door...


Rot in the obvious places.. Inner wings, rear boot floor/rear arches, the bulkhead near the drivers side wheel arch, axle mounts and chassis legs.







Someones previous patch on the drivers chassis leg...


Someone had the bright idea of painting the HT leads. haha.. These leads are scrap as they don't fit onto the distributor i'm fitting.



I suspect the head gasket is near death going by the state of the oil cap...



I have a sudden urge to paint the rocker cover!!! I have scored big on this engine, there was only 73k on this TU1 when i got her! Someones bad attenpt at de-locking the passenger door



This car wasn't long off the road...



I intend to build this car into a Junior Rod for Ballymena Raceway and Nutts Corner Raceway.Which are similar to the car i'm racing now, but are allowed to be arched and have skirts. They are also permitted lightened and balanced flywheels.

Now then back the the 22 year old french girl!! Recently i have been thinking about valve timing, and how some modified car have been fitted with Verniers to either advance or delay the valves opening or closing. At my local track there is a 1600 8 valve class, which are a strict class which is not allowed and aftermarket performance parts. So the car must remain standard. I have been advised from one of the drivers competing in that class to adjust the valve timing. He did not specify which way to adjust it.

At first i thought it would be wise to have the valves open sooner, but after much thought, i now think it would be better to have the valves open later. So there is a certain amount of suction from the piston as the pressure in the cylinder is relived by the inlet valve opening. By doing so there is a rush of fuel/air sucked into the cylinder, more than the standard amount.

Also when the piston is on the exhaust(upwards) stroke, it would again create a pressure as there would be a delay before the ex valve opens.

I have been researching the topic and have discovered that advanceing the valve timing increases low end(revs) power and torque. By retarding the valve timing in increases top end power.

By counting the teeth on the cam pulley, i can work out how many degrees are in a tooth. There are 42 teeth on the cam pulley. So then the math...

360/42 = 8.57142857 degrees

Which is equivalent to one tooth. I don't think that i need 8.6 degrees, because i risk a piston and valve meeting, and they don't get on with each other. Some people recommend 5-8 degrees, but when you retard it as much as that, but this gives the car a lumpy idle which i don't want. I think 4 degrees would be plenty.

The cam pulley is held in position by a dowel so it's only a matter of positioning the dowel.

If this gave the car 2-3 more horse, i'd be flying!! No doubt!!

My dad said to me last night he always wanted to give a stock car nitrous. So that when you really needed an extra 20 horse to pass someone you had it. He wanted to try and pipe it up behind the inlet manifold. I laughed at the idea, because if anyone found out they would talk about you for years. He was only bouncing ideas off me to see what i thought.

I showed him a build thread i thought he would like of an 1800 16v 230bhp Nova which is legendary!!!!!(below) It took me two weeks to read it all!

http://www.migweb.co.uk/forums/projects-restorations/283840-lees-garage.html

Back to the french woman. As you know i had a falling out with one of my compeTITors where his brutally hit much drivers door and quarter panel on more than one occasion in the same race. Well...





Half an hour with the rubber hammer and et violla...



Ah yes and something i got at the last meeting





In comparisons to a coke can. The one on the right is tin, the middle plastic and the left is ceramic.



Sadly the racing on Friday night has been cancelled so the next meeting is on Friday the 2nd of August at 7:15pm.

Before then i have to work out why there is 4 degrees positive camber on the drivers side front wheel. I went out on Monday and changed the strut hub and spring, hoping that the strut or hub was bent. Nope although the shock was busted, so i'll be using that strut. Plus the wheel bearing in that hub was in better condition. I thought the bottom arm may be bent but i don't think i would have been a solid cast arm without heat. So they only other thing i can think of is that the bottom arm pick up has been pushed inwards. This must have happened before i got the car as i haven't hit the car on that side(yet).

I'm going to have to get the lend of a Porta-power to get it pushed out by half an inch. to correct the camber to keep the scrutineer happy and to keep the suspension of my car legal(other than the van spring in the passenger side strut lol).

I also need to bleed the brakes as after i changed the strut they became rather soft when the car was running(while the vacuum was in operation)when the car was off the pedal was solid.

C+c welcome, Sam

 

[davenport]

I used to run my old 1600 8v tu on bikecarbs with a dizzy... the engine builder advised anywhere from 6 to 12° advanced.. (I found the lower adnace seemed to lift the mid range torque up a bit but it lost a few hosre top end..) that was done @ tickover with a timing light and by swinging the dizzy about..

That made 145bhp and 115lb/ft in the end.. cant remember what the vernier pulley was set at now.. was probably 10 or 11 years ago now...

 

[JuniorRod88]

I used to run my old 1600 8v tu on bikecarbs with a dizzy... the engine builder advised anywhere from 6 to 12° advanced.. (I found the lower adnace seemed to lift the mid range torque up a bit but it lost a few hosre top end..) that was done @ tickover with a timing light and by swinging the dizzy about..

That made 145bhp and 115lb/ft in the end.. cant remember what the vernier pulley was set at now.. was probably 10 or 11 years ago now...

What you're talking about there is the ignition timing.. (the point at which the spark occurs..) What i'm going to try to adjust is the valve timing.. (the point at which the valves open compared to the position of the crank..)

I have decided that if one tooth is equal to 8.6*, i will retard the valves by moving the cam back one tooth. i do not intend to start the engine, nope. I'll put the car into top gear and move her forward nice and slowly to see if anything clashes. If nothing does, i'll re position the dowel on the cam pulley for just under half a tooth with is 4* retard.

 

[PhillipM]

I would whip the plugs out and try turning the engine over by hand, if you find something clashes then the intertia of stopping 1 ton of car even rolling slowly is going to hurt it no matter what the gearing.

 

[JuniorRod88]

I literally just did that!!! haha The result were, that the valves didn't hit the pistons. By that's not to say that when heat has been created by the engine running over a race something won't clash. So i'll re position the dowel for 4* retard and that way i'll know that nothing will touch once heated.

Cough* Davenport, any ideas on where to purchase some reasonably priced HT leads to suit my distributor? All the ones i have looked at are for the injection models and don't fit mine.

 

[davenport]

Yeah 8 - 12 spark... and like I also said, I cant remember what the cam timing was.. I know it wasnt anywhere near a full tooth though...

Think the leads were just a bog std set off an old AXgt or something..

 

[JuniorRod88]

Yeah 8 - 12 spark... and like I also said, I cant remember what the cam timing was.. I know it wasnt anywhere near a full tooth though...

Ahh, i see now. There is a lad i race with at the moment who had his engine built last year(nova engined corsa). The man who built the engine, has a son at my school. He told me(could be lies) that they set the ignition timing to 20* before TDC and didn't use the advance coming from the carburetor. This to me seems like far far too much.

 

[PhillipM]

Mine's about ~4* advanced over stock (cam timing), it lost me ~2bhp up top on the dyno but I gained from 3k to 5k.

 

[JuniorRod88]

See i need the exact opposite, i need more power, higher up the rev range. I would love to stick a vernier on her and work out what gives the best results, but i can only go by adjusting it and testing it on track.

 

[PhillipM]

It was pretty much only the last few hundred rpm I lost in, although depends what you're revving to, I'm stuck with the stock limit atm.

 

[JuniorRod88]

New Drivers Spring, Strut and hub/Alignment checked??/Exhaust blowing/Exhaust Secured

Evening all, i trust we are well. I'm bored out of my mind, hence this update.

At the last meeting the scrutineer asked that i rectify the positive camber on the drivers side front wheel. At first i thought it must be a bent hub or strut. So i decided to change them. While i had the strut out i decided now would be a good time to put in one of the lowering springs from the saxo. So...

Took the strut out of the saxo...


Then put in a standard spring...


The two side by side..


I then took the strut and hub out of the blue S2 shell, and put the spring onto that strut. Once on, i put in the drivers side of the stock car...


Now then, i have an ARB fitted to the front of the car, seen in previous posts. Which tries to keep the two sides of the car level. I happen to run the passenger side higher than the drivers side, because i am racing on an oval track. If i run this ride height, the ARB will try and lift the drivers side of the car when the car is still. It will also try and lower the passenger side, but not as much as i have a stiffer spring in that side. When i put the lowering spring in, it raised that side by about 10-20mm, this doesn't bother me and i will see how it affects the car when on track.

I put in the new strut and hub to see if it made any difference to the positive camber which has magically appeared on that wheel. I was hoping for a bent strut or hub, but there has been no change to the camber. I don't think i have bent the bottom arm as it's a fair chunk of cast steel. So my only other theory is that the bottom arm pivot has been pushed inwards which would add the positive camber. So i will see if i can get the lend of a Porta-power to push it out. When you look at the bush on the pivot of the arm, it's been pushed to one side, which tells us something.

Few pictures because i'm a tart like that. Cleaned the bay after a run down the lane and back, flat to the tin!!!









The next meeting is on Friday the 2nd of August which is this Friday night, I would like a wet night for a change...

Because it's not racing, it's sliding through corners like a seal on roller skates!

Only thing i don't like about racing in the rain... ...I have no windscreen!

I might play around with the valve timing tomorrow, see what happens

Comment + Complaints very welcome

Sam