Sherman Tig (Jasic in disguise?)

[ljkenny]

If you're in a rush and tomorrow is too far away, put a 16A plug on it and then make up a 16A-13A lead?

Perhaps a little more expensive, but all readily available from your local Screwfix.

Or just try the 13A plug and have the above as a fallback

Good idea. I have all this already.

Will get back to you in a bit.

 

[Ruffian]

My jasic, Sherman and parweld have all been wired into 13amp plugs.

 

[Pigeon_Droppings2]

Just stick a euro to UK converter on it...as long as it's 13a rated job done at least to get you welding.

I ran my Kemppi for 6 years like this.

 

[ljkenny]

Looks okay. Most of the girth was the rubber sheath.

Couldn't fit the whole cable under the cable grip though.

Incidentally, it turns out I suck at welding Aluminium (new thread coming I think).

 

[Benterrier]

Sorry, clamping on the wires not good practice. Get you out of the desert yes.

 

[Altintas]

Play time

 

[Nathan Levin]

@www_weldes_de it says cannot ship to Portugal ?? Looking to maybe buy the Mig200HD

 

[paulo1974]

try at weldes.es or weldes.co.uk

 

[www_weldes_de]

When I go into weldes.de it says I can't put in an order because it thinks I'm in usa... Long way to usa from Sweden

Maybe you use VPN?

 

[www_weldes_de]

I just receive information from Tecweld, that's all Sherman Digitig 206P AC/DC listings with delivery to UK on ebay and amazon must be ended.

ps. probably Jasic have problem

 

[paulo1974]

Why?
You are not selling jasic machines, they are not covered by jasic warranty.
There are similar clones on E.U.
https://www.galagar.com/htm/es/prods/50/soldadura-y-corte/tig/tig-ac-dc/smart-200-ac-dc.html
https://suministrosorozco.com/Maquina-de-Solda-Metalworks-Premium-TIG-200-HF-AC/DC-Alu
https://www.elmatech-gmbh.de/index....hines-profi-tig-200-ac-dc-250-ac-dc-320-ac-dc
and so on...
Is there a secret clause to the tecnweld contract???? or is seller bias????

P.S
As weldes goes i have no rap with them. I bought from them and all material was delivered, as for warranty issues i didn´t need them . So I´m looking for some reviews on the matter. As any other online shop the distance is a matter but they say pickup and send the material on warranty are free. Need to see.
I will be seeing ebay and amazon uk sites for removal of 206p welder. there are other online shops that sell it.

 

[It'll_be_fine]

Well, thanks to weldes.de my new 206p ac/dc turned up yesterday, very prompt as only ordered at the end of last week!

I've just printed the 52 page Jasic manual, I'll look to get started shortly. Aside from my cheerful Clarke MIG this is my first first into proper welding, so apologies, some very basic questions:

1) Gas regulators, I've made do with disposables on the mig, but intend to go with a rent free bottle for the TIG. Adams bottles are labelled as having "standard BOC connections" it's this the same as "G5/8" as in this item or do i need something different? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/264844309860 from there I should just need suitable 6mm tube to connect to the gas adapter in the box I think?

2) My goal is largely to weld thin-ish (1 - 3mm) aluminium. Am I right in thinking that I'm after 1.6mm 4043 filler rods and 1.6 mm tungsten, or would 2.4 be a good/ better. If ones more forgiving that's probably what i should start with..

3) The tungsten that came with the welder is grey tipped, which seems to be listed as OK for most things, should I be using using green for aluminum?

4) Is it significantly easier to learn TIG technique on steel in DC? I get the feeling I'm going to need a good few hours just learning basic technique before worrying about making anything very useful, so if this is considered a lot easier, I can order up some mild steel filler and tungsten at the same time.

If there's a better place to ask these very basic questions I'll happily switch threads, thanks in advance for any guidance so I can order in everything before we're all locked down again!

Thanks also for the wealth of information here, I'd decided I couldn't justify a TIG up until reading this, as I'd not have had the confidence to buy something off brand, or been able to justify the cost of one of the big names for the hobby use this will get.

James

 

[Pigeon_Droppings2]

Isn't there some pesky EU free market rules about restricting exports within the EU. I'm no expert...been a long time since I've done anything in that area. What I do remember is anyone mentions anti competitive practices and the law team would go into melt down!

I do love companies who take a short sighted view....in my view people buying the Sherman won't have bought the Jassic...but they might in future. More Tig welders is surely a good thing?

 

[www_weldes_de]

Why?
You are not selling jasic machines, they are not covered by jasic warranty.
There are similar clones on E.U.
https://www.galagar.com/htm/es/prods/50/soldadura-y-corte/tig/tig-ac-dc/smart-200-ac-dc.html
https://suministrosorozco.com/Maquina-de-Solda-Metalworks-Premium-TIG-200-HF-AC/DC-Alu
https://www.elmatech-gmbh.de/index....hines-profi-tig-200-ac-dc-250-ac-dc-320-ac-dc
and so on...
Is there a secret clause to the tecnweld contract???? or is seller bias????

Because Sherman was selling much cheaper and they make competition to the Jasic...

 

[Newlands]

1) Gas regulators, I've made do with disposables on the mig, but intend to go with a rent free bottle for the TIG. Adams bottles are labelled as having "standard BOC connections" it's this the same as "G5/8" as in this item or do i need something different? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/264844309860 from there I should just need suitable 6mm tube to connect to the gas adapter in the box I think?

I used hobbyweld, same as I use for the mig. With a 2 stage regulator from TBWS https://www.tbws.co.uk/shop/argon-and-argon-mix-welding-regulator-two-stage/. The fitting to connect the gas to the welder should be supplied in the box of accessories from Sherman, and to connect to the regulator you’ll need a barbed hose fitting, ⅜”bsw I think. I bought a box of hose clips off eBay, the sort which you crimp on with a pair of pincers.

Isn't there some pesky EU free market rules about restricting exports within the EU. I'm no expert...been a long time since I've done anything in that area. What I do remember is anyone mentions anti competitive practices and the law team would go into melt down!

I’ve heard similar. Some years ago Festool were caught out as they had a condition that their dealers were not allowed to offer any discount. Ended up in court with Festool being forced to drop the price fixing policy.

 

[Pigeon_Droppings2]

It's called the "EU single market" for a good reason...free flow of goods. Maybe they know what they are doing...but as I recall the fines for misbehaving are severe...that's why most legal teams have a melt down and don't go anywhere near this stuff.

 

[paulo1974]

2) My goal is largely to weld thin-ish (1 - 3mm) aluminium. Am I right in thinking that I'm after 1.6mm 4043 filler rods and 1.6 mm tungsten, or would 2.4 be a good/ better. If ones more forgiving that's probably what i should start with..

3) The tungsten that came with the welder is grey tipped, which seems to be listed as OK for most things, should I be using using green for aluminum?

4) Is it significantly easier to learn TIG technique on steel in DC? I get the feeling I'm going to need a good few hours just learning basic technique before worrying about making anything very useful, so if this is considered a lot easier, I can order up some mild steel filler and tungsten at the same time.



Thanks also for the wealth of information here, I'd decided I couldn't justify a TIG up until reading this, as I'd not have had the confidence to buy something off brand, or been able to justify the cost of one of the big names for the hobby use this will get.

James

i´m a tig novice so where it goes

question 2 there is a diference between ac and dc tig modes the dc as it goes to positive torch the tungsten need to be thicker. i should go for 2.4 and 1.6.

Question 3
grey ones ok at low ac amperage, green ones only for old transformer units, i would buy some blue ones great at dc and works ok at ac

Question 4 i think that you can see fine the weld pool on steel

 

[paulo1974]

Because Sherman was selling much cheaper and they make competition to the Jasic...

Welder Fantasy TIG LUX 202 AC/DC is even cheaper and it´s the same machine.

 

[HughF]

I just receive information from Tecweld, that's all Sherman Digitig 206P AC/DC listings with delivery to UK on ebay and amazon must be ended.

ps. probably Jasic have problem

They can't do that... it is a free market.

 

[choco]

Are the UK in the EU ??