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Beginning… the repaint of my enormous steel 36.
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Two slides from a No 4 and a No 5… five vices currently being restored this week!
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No 00 finished! Such a dinky little thing. 00-5 the design is identical, just scaled differently. The No 6 has a different base shape.
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Personal preference of course but look how much nicer the faded blue original looks. I'm guessing that one, the faded moving jaw, will get the sympathetic restoration to keep that "used" look?
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Parkinson vice slipping.
Looking at the pics MattF has posted it seems pretty clear to me that my half nut is in a bad way. I ordered one for a T23 ( part T23L from partshopdirect - B&D) as it looked about right, same number of threads and about the same size.
Worth a punt as it was less than £25, Inc postage.
It arrived and fits straight in, no alteration at all. I also bent out the tang of the spring adjuster as per MattF's picture and the spring grips better.
I haven't adjusted the saddle which came with it, as it doesn't fit.
Testing is a success, the QR requires very little pressure, (as I was told earlier, about four clicks ).
The vice is now working properly.
Once I've completed painting, I'll post some vice pics.
Attached is a pic of the new half nut next to the old.
Thanks to all for the advice and guidance.
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Record 36 done. A beautiful early steel one, very rough casting, still works well. Slides easily and qr grabs nicely.
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Those jaw ends could use a bit of smoothing up ?
Kind of reminds me of a neighbours mouth, she looks like she's chewing a wasp.
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Those jaw ends could use a bit of smoothing up ?
Kind of reminds me of a neighbours mouth, she looks like she's chewing a wasp.
Leave well alone. Weld is holding the jaws in. Screws just turning.
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More vices. A No 4 and the No 00 from the other day. Both patented. Early editions.
Hello all
I've currently got a hankering for Record no 6/7/8 (one of them not all.. well currently anyway
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Is there any way to date these/ get an idea of roughly when one I might look at was produced? Does the patent no' being written on (as per Dieselman 63's No4 & 00 )apply to these models too ? Are there any particular features of early/ mid production 6/7/8's vs the later ones to look out for ?
Many thanks
I've currently got a hankering for Record no 6/7/8 (one of them not all.. well currently anyway
)Is there any way to date these/ get an idea of roughly when one I might look at was produced? Does the patent no' being written on (as per Dieselman 63's No4 & 00 )apply to these models too ? Are there any particular features of early/ mid production 6/7/8's vs the later ones to look out for ?
Many thanks
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Generally speaking the earlier vices are better and more likely made from superior materials, possibly even cast steel which is "the best".
Earlier vices have "unnecessary" details like the round shaped end on the main screw. Later models don't bother with such niceties and have plain squared off turned ends.
Not sure if this is always true but it is a good rule of thumb.
Earlier vices have "unnecessary" details like the round shaped end on the main screw. Later models don't bother with such niceties and have plain squared off turned ends.
Not sure if this is always true but it is a good rule of thumb.
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Certainly does apply at least to the No6, because I restored one a while back. 7 and 8 are uncommon to say the least.
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Several No 6's on eBay priced between £60 and £130, while the No 7 can be had for £400 with delivery.Hello all
I've currently got a hankering for Record no 6/7/8 (one of them not all.. well currently anyway
Is there any way to date these/ get an idea of roughly when one I might look at was produced? Does the patent no' being written on (as per Dieselman 63's No4 & 00 )apply to these models too ? Are there any particular features of early/ mid production 6/7/8's vs the later ones to look out for ?
Many thanks
Steve
I have now finished my Paramo no51, when i was taking it apart it astounded me how good the quality of cast was, there was very little sign of factory grinding at all. The bar keep and the QR trigger are made of Brass! which in my mind is a bit of extra quality the other vices don't have. The QR spring was heaven to put back with the right tension, no castle nut adjustment required. Everything was reused except for the split pin. This is now my keeper woodworking vice, amazing quality and smooth as silk.
I have tried to date it, i note on the top of the static jaw is stamped "4" and "1/52", i am thinking the later was for Record's 52 1/2, if this is correct it could be one of the earliest production runs when Paramo were still forging for Record, when they stopped forging for Record i am not sure.
I have tried to date it, i note on the top of the static jaw is stamped "4" and "1/52", i am thinking the later was for Record's 52 1/2, if this is correct it could be one of the earliest production runs when Paramo were still forging for Record, when they stopped forging for Record i am not sure.
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Some Wodens I have done have had the bronze parts you mention.
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That is a damned fine looking vice and a sympathetic restoration too. Nice job!
They don't make 'em like they used to...
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No idea, but my fortis has a brass quick release support plate. No idea why, most dont.
At least they made a better job of it than they did casting the steel for the rest of the vice. It's like Swiss cheese!
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Just a thought. Could it be possible that some vices in the past were made for the munition manufacturing industry with regard to using dissimilar metals, because of the remote possibility of a friction spark creating an explosion.
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I'm the case of my vice, they were apparently used in the military. Not sure the quick release support is much of a spark risk though.
Someone on here has a vice where thebwhole front jaw is brass don't they?
