123hotchef
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no no lathe i am afraid i have dies if i need to cut a thread onto it
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no no lathe i am afraid i have dies if i need to cut a thread onto it
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Ive just been and taken it apart, it is bent 
I Put a set square on top of the ridged part and up against the jaw seat and the seat is tilted 3mm back from square, damn.
Theres also 3mm gap under E and N of ENGLAND measured between a ruler held against it.
Must have took plenty beatings under heavy hammers, I guess its junk.
I Put a set square on top of the ridged part and up against the jaw seat and the seat is tilted 3mm back from square, damn.
Theres also 3mm gap under E and N of ENGLAND measured between a ruler held against it.
Must have took plenty beatings under heavy hammers, I guess its junk.
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Ive just been and taken it apart, it is bent
I Put a set square on top of the ridged part and up against the jaw seat and the seat is tilted 3mm back from square, damn.
Theres also 3mm gap under E and N of ENGLAND measured between a ruler held against it.
Must have took plenty beatings under heavy hammers, I guess its junk.
could you not machine some new jaws with a bevel on the back to make them close squarely? Still a usable vice, even if only for heavy work.
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It's a pity when vices are abused in this way. My Record had some muppet with a big hammer attack it. The lower support lip, under the moving jaw, has fractured taking a lot of metal with it. It's good enough for the moment until I get my Robinson refurbed.
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If it still works it's still good! It would still make a great beater vice, they are virtually indestructible after all. For me it would depend on the registration of the jaws when shut. So long as they meet properly without too much slop, a new set of jaws (aluminium/copper?) and you're good to go.
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It's pretty good, probably less than a millimetre out after I've hit a few things in it 
. I hunted around until I found some Unbrako countersunk machine screws. They are a nice fit in the countersink and can be tightened to ******y providing pretty good registration.
. I hunted around until I found some Unbrako countersunk machine screws. They are a nice fit in the countersink and can be tightened to ******y providing pretty good registration.
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That makes sense, thanks, will take a look at that. Yes the little one is a Woden 186B/0.
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The jaws meet surprisingly well, it can be seen in the picture with the square in it, thats why i found it hard to believe it was bent. It became very apparent it was damaged when i took it apart and started putting squares and straight edges to it.
I think its been opened so the E of England was just passed the supporting part underneath, then its been battered heavily. It wasnt me that done it because i never had a heavy enough hammer to do damage like that for the brief time this vice was on my bench. Im disappointed because this vice used to belong to a very resourceful man who was good at making stuff and i bought it when he died.
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Perhaps he made one out of two scrappers - proving how resourceful he was.
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It's well worth saving....
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That's a casting flaw I think, they've put the lettering on in the wrong place too far back and further down so have ended up machining it off.
Looks to me like the shelf the dynamic jaw rides on is bent down as well as the dynamic jaw being bent. I had a Record 36 with a bent shelf that I straightened with two massive carver clamps and some heat.
That 34 could be straightened.
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Turns out the OP has discovered it is bent and the jaw has either been machined off to suit or actually worn down by that amount over the years. Either way it seems it does still work so theres no great problem so long as the jaw mounting surfaces can be machined or filed square and true. In some ways it's nice to have a vice you don't have to be precious about. I have a mint example of a similar vice (an 84M) and I daren't use it!
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Ive just been and put a square on the shelf the dynamic jaw rides on and the back jaw is square to it. It doesnt seem to be bent.
If any of you guys were closer id give you this vice, spares or repairs.
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Baby Swindens on eBay at the moment ..... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Swindens-Vintage-Double-Jaw-Vice-No-250409-/252291882107
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Meh. That's a rubbish one. If I were you I wouldn't bother with it.
If I were me on the other hand.
LOL. Come on then, who's gonna outbid me! Place yer bets.
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Lol, you're ok I'm not bidding on it 
They don't come up very often and do make quite a good price ..... good luck with your bidding.
They don't come up very often and do make quite a good price ..... good luck with your bidding.
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Yes I've been watching that build. Nice edge finder saga too.
