Steel Boat restoration

[slim_boy_fat]

16 points of failure

Major or trivial?

 

[Bullet2012]

16 points of failure

Not too bad, are many related to each other ?

 

[bert]

Some, it failed the gas leak test so will be replacing the regulator, pigtail and clamps. The bottle is insecure so need to get a holder for that.

It's got the wrong pipe on the diesel filler neck and the jubilee clip is corroded.

The fuel water separators have glass bowls so they need to be replaced with metal. They have only been on there for 29 years too.

Batteries are not strapped down, they never have been from new.

Lots of wiring to tidy up and secure.

There is a nick on one of the fuel hoses so that needs sorting as does fixing the fuel pipework the engineer bodged up a few weeks ago.

Fire extinguishers are all well old so could do with being serviced or replaced and the automatic halon ones in the engine compartment have to be removed.

The plastic fuel filter on the diesel heater can be replaced with a glass one which is strange as I can't have glass bowls on the water/fuel separator.

He also wants me to cut an access hole inside a cupboard so he can look at the gas fitting on the back of the fridge.

Considering its passed a number of these tests before and all I have done is fix stuff I'm a little surprised it's failed on a lot of these items now and not before.

 

[bert]

This is one of the filters I need to replace the bowl on. Anyone know if the bowls are available on their own or if I will need a whole new housing

 

[Bullet2012]

This is one of the filters I need to replace the bowl on. Anyone know if the bowls are available on their own or if I will need a whole new housingView attachment 343138View attachment 343139View attachment 343140

Glass are allowed !

fuel filters | Boat Safety Scheme | Go Boating - Stay Safe

Fuel filters can be prone to the heat from a fire and impact damage. Failure of a fuel filter can lead to additional fuel being added to any fire. You must only use appropriate fire resistant and impact resistant fuel filters designed for marine...

www.boatsafetyscheme.org

 

[jerrytug]

Glass are allowed !

fuel filters | Boat Safety Scheme | Go Boating - Stay Safe

Fuel filters can be prone to the heat from a fire and impact damage. Failure of a fuel filter can lead to additional fuel being added to any fire. You must only use appropriate fire resistant and impact resistant fuel filters designed for marine...

www.boatsafetyscheme.org

Yes, see post #268. The examiners don't always know their own rules!
Plus they will *never* walk away giving you a clean bill of health, they always have to find something to snag you on

 

[Bullet2012]

Quite normal for them to want to view the back of a fridge, cooker etc. just cut an access door in the cupboard or something next to it.

 

[Rkweld]

This is a common CAV style filter and water trap, used on many small bits of plant, you can pick upthe glass bowls but they come in a vatiety of sizes, if you measure yours you should be able to find one.

 

[addjunkie]

You could be naughty and use a couple of unions to bypass the filter! Get inspected, then put it back

 

[Trevorleach]

Also got the boat safety certificate here carrying out the inspection.

It's not going great so will have a big long list of things to do.

Most of it will be minor rollacks, hose clips/gas hose out of date/not enough vents/maybe incorrect fuel flex hoses/something under engines to catch oil leaks to stop bilge pump chucking oil out into the river, a tin tray on brackets is sufficient.
Note on tidal waters boat cert not required.

 

[bert]

Wrong hoses is spot on, it's got exhaust hose for the fuel filler so that needs changing.

I'll fit the proper metal parts on the filters if I can find some. Pretty annoyed with that as I prefer the glass as it makes diagnosing issues much easier.

I'll ask him about the fire resistant glass and see what he says

 

[minimutly]

Wrong hoses is spot on, it's got exhaust hose for the fuel filler so that needs changing.

I'll fit the proper metal parts on the filters if I can find some. Pretty annoyed with that as I prefer the glass as it makes diagnosing issues much easier.

I'll ask him about the fire resistant glass and see what he says

Don't see fire being the problem with glass, if it gets that hot your boat would be toast anyway. Isn't it to do with damage from being knocked? So a mesh around it would be sufficient?

 

[bert]

I don't see an issue with glass bowls either as they are mounted in a position nothing is getting near them. I like the clear filters so you can have an easy indication of a problem with fuel supply.

 

[bert]

I've spent the weekend working through the list of jobs I need to do. I've come across an issue with needing 45mm fuel pipe for the filler bit it's not available is iso7840 hose. It's 38 or 51mm only so neither of those are any good.

He told me the gas locker needed sorting so today I derusted it, used rust converter and painted it. Note there is no way of securing the gas bottles so I have a couple of bottle straps on order and I'm thinking of finding some kind of matting to go down on the bottom.

Whilst I had the paint out I also sorted the storage locker.

I'm going to have the bottle reg and pigtail replaced as these are from 2003 and the system tested for leaks.

I also tried to have the sewage tank pumped out but the deck fitting is seized. I've ordered a 17mm impact hex and will let some ugga duggas have a go next Friday.

 

[Bullet2012]

Do you have dimensions of the gas locker base ? I may have something suitable

 

[Barking Mat]

why done no-one with boats use filters like these?

Aquafilter 10" Double Twin Water Filter Housing 3/4" / Biodiesel & Vegetable Oil | eBay

AQUAFILTER TWIN WATER FILTER HOUSING. Amtek Aqfilters Aquafilter USTM Calmag Liff BWT Pentek GE Watts 3M Ecosoft Acura Suez Pentair Spectrum Finerfilters Osmio Doulton. Suitable for Biodiesel & Vegetable Oil Filtration.

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I'm assuming their must be a good reason?

really need some kind of pump to prime them after a filter change but that's about it?

Cos' they're crap and thé joints fail.

I've removed loads.

 

[bert]

Not 100% accurate but 76 x 38cm

 

[knighty]

Cos' they're crap and thé joints fail.

I've removed loads.

maybe not those exact ones... that was just first link I found... must be some like that which are decent?

 

[Barking Mat]

Not 100% accurate but 76 x

maybe not those exact ones... that was just first link I found... must be some like that which are decent?

I don't bother with them frankly.

I actively remove them.

I empty thé water tanks at thé end of thé season, refill them in spring, add chlorine to kill any bactéria, leave it a week, flush and refill.

Never had any probs.

 

[Barking Mat]

Any boat related questions fire away, been doing it for thé last twenty years.

Seen most things.

I am responsable for a hire fleet of 13 boats, and basically I let complète amateurs hire boats...

I train them.