The likes of STOP OIL and Extinction rebellion.
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I am pro nuclear power - I also care about the planet (I am a Father and a Grandfather).
I also have "social conscience" about - normal working people and "transport poverty".
This why I am "fence sitting" about EV cars.
If I believe the press it is good idea - but when I get my Casio Calculator out - it looks a bad idea!
Not explaining myself very well here - sorry
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"Extinction rebellion" - I get the message - it is clear!
They just posh kids stopping poor people going to work - to earn money and feed families.
But yes I agree with their core message!
Not explaining myself very well here - sorry
So do I - but as Britain accounts for 1% of CO2 production I feel their activities would be better focused elsewhere - strangely though they don't seem very keen to do it in China or India - or the USA funnily enough. I suspect others would be a tad less tolerant"Extinction rebellion" - I get the message - it is clear!
They just posh kids stopping poor people going to work - to earn money and feed families.
But yes I agree with their core message!
Not explaining myself very well here - sorry
I'm not sure they're kids, average age of 41 according to https://cusp.ac.uk/themes/p/xr-study/
Which probably isn't that much lower than the average age on here, and puts the majority firmly into the parents and grandparents demographic.
- The mean age of participants across both actions was 41.1 years old. Under 35s were slightly more numerous in the April London protests than in October (24.2% compared to 16.6%).
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So do I - but as Britain accounts for 1% of CO2 production I feel their activities would be better focused elsewhere - strangely though they don't seem very keen to do it in China or India - or the USA funnily enough. I suspect others would be a tad less tolerant
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I am just a "fat dumb mechanic". Born a "retard"...
I am pro environmental issues - pro re cycling - pro using less (less of everything).
I even have started questioning where the meat I eat comes from.
I am also SO pro nuclear power it is unreal - it seems such a contrast to my other views.
But I do have a "social consciousness" and the people with less money - make decisions on the basis of need. They have no other choice - they just don't. In the UK and in other poorer countries...
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The thought of a home based oil source is all well and good until the price of crude is high enough for the home providers to sell it to another ,more affluent customer. Simple supply and demand.
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Especially when one hand seems not to know or speak to the other.
Upgrading supply lines takes time and money . " Rome was not built in a day " as the saying goes neither will all the EV charging network supplies.
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While your at it.....how about switching to 60 hertz 120 vac .....
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It is private business - it is capitalism - it is the "market"
I am a capitlist at heart.
The "market" decides the price...
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And as usual the powers that be have failed to learn by the original ICE situation. I would love to have seen the Eureka moment when someone was told that the system wasn't working. " What do you mean we haven't got enough charging points ? Quick who can we blame?"
Indeed so - but the power supply there is the less likely the prices going high.
The USA has a glut of oil and gas - their energy prices are far less than here - and hardly a windmill or solar panel in sight!
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All this "free" renewable energy seems to have quite a volatile price it seems!
I'm pretty sure we were told price stability was one of the key benefits?
I'm pretty sure we were told price stability was one of the key benefits?
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Not really, gas does - and every other energy supply gets paid the same as gas.
That’s the issue that needs sorting, but it’s been that way for a long time and worked fine right up until gas prices went through the roof. I’m not saying it’s right, but that’s the way it is, and to lay the blame solely at the feet of wind/solar misses the point completely.
It’s been discussed on here loads but it seems that everyone defaults to the “renewables bad” mantra…
I’m not particularly pro renewables, but it helps to understand exactly what’s happening.
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Depends how you/we look at it I guess....if you want to get Joe Public on board with the whole "renewables good" mantra then price stability would kind of seem like a very obvious place to start!
If consumers had been insulated from the rises (by the renewables sector) I imagine they'd be calling for 100% renewables...as things stand all that advantage has been kind of lost in someones pocket and the public can't see anything has changed.
Not happy that National grid have said we need far more pylons than ever. This is the penalty of power from all over the place. Giant ugly pylons in our National parks. It's a disgrace 
5 times more than in the last 30 years!
SMRs on existing sites and they wouldn't be needed.
And for what?
5 times more than in the last 30 years!
SMRs on existing sites and they wouldn't be needed.
And for what?
Very good point.
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Note yesterday MD of a Co with 4 charging sites (multiple chargers) on the motorway say they dont work due to not enough power to site so not connected 
Then look at comparable infrastructure costs in Europe for train, tunnels, large engineering projects.
We have the new Hinkly point pylons within 3/4 mile They have replaced at leas2 other pylon runs, I quite like them
Then look at comparable infrastructure costs in Europe for train, tunnels, large engineering projects.
We have the new Hinkly point pylons within 3/4 mile They have replaced at leas2 other pylon runs, I quite like them
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Look around nearby Buffalo NY, they are all over the place there.
Even Lincoln Electric (yes, the welder company) has one:
And I can tell you, it is a very bad distraction trying to work thru friday afternoon
traffic with that thing whirling around.
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