British Rail 12 ton vented wagon conversion

[Blobber]

Have you tried a weeny bit of oil on the screws when you put them in?

 

[Wildefalcon]

Some time later...

 

[Wildefalcon]

Have you tried a weeny bit of oil on the screws when you put them in?

I didn't fit those screws.

 

[Wildefalcon]

Every screw into oak is coated with grease, and driven in with an impact driver. Once it starts ratcheting, I reverse and re grease, then drive again. When I'm finished the making good I'll remove all and apply candle wax to all the screws.

Takes ages, but the only way to do it. FIL suggested grease, not oil or wax, years ago. Mind you, he was the SAE expert on lubricants.

 

[colnerov]

My uncle was a high end shopfitter usually working on banks and suchlike so all hardwoods. Even when framing and fitting garage doors for his daughter, i was giving him a hand inasmuch as I was greasing the screws and handing them to him and other menial important tasks, all driven in by hand.

 

[Wildefalcon]

I appreciate but don't envy that work. I'm very grateful for the impact driver. Makes the job viable. I'm not sure my carpel ligament is up to the job of driving screws into oak yet.

 

[Wildefalcon]

Draught proofing will be a fun challenge.

 

[Wildefalcon]

The second set of hinges will be normal, thank goodness, no clearance issues, though they're even more damaged on this side.

Multiple sets of sheered screws... I tried to remove the remnants by turning the protruding pieces, but they also sheered. Then the drill bit broke inside the one clear hole, suggesting that it wasn't clear afterall.

 

[Seadog]

I've cut sheared screws out before now, cut a clean hole with a chisel, then glued and plugged.

 

[sparkysy]

I have used a core cutter to remove screws like that before then cored a new bit of wood to glue back in the hole.
Let it dry then cut off any protruding wood, drill new holes and fit the hinges.

 

[Wildefalcon]

I have used a core cutter to remove screws like that before then cored a new bit of wood to glue back in the hole.
Let it dry then cut off any protruding wood, drill new holes and fit the hinges.

Like a hole saw?

Anyway I got lucky, two did come out.

And I was stuck, as I didn't know what to do, so unusual.

 

[Wildefalcon]

Wood plugs and the wobble tool.

Clearance is fine.

 

[Wildefalcon]

And they fit, sort of.

 

[Wildefalcon]

There's a lot of fettling to do. There's a warp in at least two of the doors that prevents a tight closing. I think they'll be in the workshop for some time.

 

[Wildefalcon]

Plus some of the hinges might need tweaking so the door gaps are even. But they are thereabouts.

A lot of work yet before these will do.

 

[sparkysy]

Like a hole saw?

Anyway I got lucky, two did come out.

And I was stuck, as I didn't know what to do, so unusual.

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This is what I have used in the past, put over the offending screw and core round it, break the core off with the screw in it.
Then use another core to fill the hole.
Glad to see you had some success! Those Knipex slip joint pliers are awesome, i've had some luck with them before too!

That is looking superb by the way!!

 

[Wildefalcon]

Titanium Plug Cutter Set

Create precisely-sized wooden plugs or dowels to fill counterbored holes in wood. Titanium-coated for an extended life, Toolpak's plug cutter set includes 6mm, 8mm, 13mm and 16mm sizes - perfect for hiding sunken screws.• 55mm plug cutters in four sizes - 6mm, 8mm, 13mm and 16mm• Makes precise...

www.toolstation.com

This is what I have used in the past, put over the offending screw and core round it, break the core off with the screw in it.
Then use another core to fill the hole.
Glad to see you had some success! Those Knipex slip joint pliers are awesome, i've had some luck with them before too!

That is looking superb by the way!!

They would have been very useful. I'm done with woodwork for a bit, but now that I know they exist......

 

[Wildefalcon]

I say I'm done with woodwork, but....

 

[Wildefalcon]

Also some tweaking of the hinge pillars might help get it really good.

 

[Wildefalcon]

Filling in time. Just because.